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Re: About wiki.netbsd.org
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Amitai Schlair wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:30 PM, matthew sporleder
It's somewhat misleading to call something a 'wiki' if it's not
It's somewhat misleading to make this distinction in a thread whose
very first post linked to
In fact, let me generalize: anyone still reading this, before forming
further opinions, please first familiarize yourself with the tasks that
have been completed:
It is somewhat misleading ... no, it is outright dishonest to suggest that
what is outlined there is anything near "community editing". If anything,
it reminds me of what was said at the beginning of the first wiki
discussion ("We don't need a wiki, just submit patches to the guide.");
only this time with a thin coat of ikiwiki paint reluctantly applied.
Yes, that's probably a bit harsh. But I did read all the pages you linked
to in your mail, and it seems that you (i.e. some of "you developers")
don't really get, or want, the wiki model.
You'll notice we have pretty good reasons for going about this the way
Those reasons are not obvious to me. But what I did notice is that you
don't seem to know what it is that you are trying to accomplish. The wiki
project has apparently gone from "a different way for developers to write
documentation" (my impression), to "perhaps letting regular users
contribute as well, but with adult supervision of course", to "a
replacement for wiki.netbsd.se" (you, admittedly after this latest email
They're all reasonable goals. But different goals, and it seems that the
kind of solution you end up with is going to depend on what they are. So
just what are the goals, and does everyone involved agree? What do
potential contributors -- including us regular users -- think they should
Please, all, let's table this discussion until such time as the wiki is
ready for general use, at which point you can expect an announcement to
If you want the wiki to succeed, I'd suggest doing the exact opposite.
Ask what the people involved want, and then build it.
Then again, wiki.netbsd.se already exists, so there's plenty of room to
experiment (and even fail).
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