Re: netbsd-10, merging device-streams (xstreamtodev, rdbinfo)

[David Brownlee <abs%netbsd.org@localhost>]

Great. Committed to current. I'll wait for the next HEAD build to show
up at https://nycdn.netbsd.org/ then send pullups to netbsd-10, -9 (&
maybe even -8)

Thanks again

David

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 03:11, Roc Vallès <vallesroc%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
>
> Awesome, thanks!
>
> I checked README.md, then checked the MD5 file and compared the hashes
> of the binaries with the 2.2.1 gcc-built ones, they match. I think
> we're good.
>
> Roc
>
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 04:43, David Brownlee <abs%netbsd.org@localhost> wrote:
> >
> > OK, updated build with binaries
> >
> > http://sync.absd.org/amiga/current/installation/misc/
> >
> > modulus any negative feedback I'm going to push the changes into
> > NetBSD HEAD, then look to get pullups into the various branches
> >
> > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 18:39, David Brownlee <abs%netbsd.org@localhost> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 15:32, Roc Vallès <vallesroc%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 23:15, David Brownlee <abs%netbsd.org@localhost> wrote:
> > > > > I have another question :)
> > > > >
> > > > > xstreamtodev and xdevtostream are just streamtodev and devtostream
> > > > > with EXPERT_VERSION.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that the expert versions appear to be entirely a superset (so
> > > > > the behave identically for all basic supported options other than the
> > > > > usage string), is there any need to build and or include the basic
> > > > > versions? The binaries are a few 100s of bytes larger, so its not
> > > > > likely to be useful on the basis of memory or file size.
> > > > >
> > > > > My natural inclination would be just to default to EXPERT_VERSION on
> > > > > always (or even unifdef it), and have a single set of binaries. (I
> > > > > would also probably just want to call them streamtodev and
> > > > > devtostream, but I suspect we have enough years of habit using the "x"
> > > > > prefix that its best to keep it).
> > > >
> > > > This is very much the reasoning I applied. I am not a fan of this
> > > > distinction either, but thought best to avoid changing anything
> > > > user-facing beyond necessary.
> > > >
> > > > Without having to look outside of netbsd, the netbsd documentation
> > > > does say to use xstreamtodev, and existing releases of netbsd used to
> > > > provide only the xstreamtodev and rdbinfo binaries in the
> > > > /amiga/installation/misc/ directory.
> > >
> > > OK, I'll update the files in NetBSD to exclude streamtodev and
> > > devtostream. If you wanted to adjust the github README and source to
> > > only build xstreamtodev and xdevtostream I'd be entirely happy with
> > > that, but that's obviously not a blocker from the NetBSD side.
> > >
> > > > Tangentially related, documentation will eventually have to be updated
> > > > to reflect the current state of the port, as e.g. the install
> > > > documentation claims that it is not possible to install netbsd to
> > > > partitions above 32bit boundary due to xstreamtodev's limitations.
> > > >
> > > > This no longer holds true when AmigaOS has 64bit support, and while it
> > > > is not possible to boot netbsd in such a system with bootblocks, using
> > > > loadbsd to boot a kernel from AmigaOS bypasses this. Of course, my own
> > > > install is well above 32bit, with AmigaOS and related partitions
> > > > occupying the beginning of the disk.
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to look at the install notes and suggest updates,
> > > that's a great way to help without having to write code or anything
> > > else technical (hint hint to the list :)
> > >
> > > > As I understand it, it should also be possible to update the
> > > > bootblocks to support TD64 and possibly also NSD, but it is a
> > > > considerably involved task.
> > > >
> > > > With these improvements, together with the newer loadbsd, pcmcia
> > > > bugfix, Xorg support improvements on AGA and OCS/ECS chipsets, faster
> > > > decompression of package indexes and other changes, netbsd-10's amiga
> > > > port is looking good.
> > >
> > > I think if I can work through testing a miniroot with the sysinst
> > > installer we could also make the install process a lot nicer (it's
> > > further complicated as networking doesn't work for me in fs-uae, and I
> > > really need time to look at that)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > David