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Re: Importing tmux into base

Am 11.02.11 15:47, schrieb D'Arcy J.M. Cain:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:11:42 +0200
> Alan Barrett <> wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, David Holland wrote:
>>> bind should be kicked out; there's no reason other than historical
>>> tradition to have it in base, and it's a maintenance hassle both for
>>> us and for sysadmins.
>> We should have a full-service DNS resolver in base.  It doesn't have to
>> be bind.
> Personally I wonder why we have bind, Postfix and a lot of other stuff
> in base.  We don't need it to run a basic system.  We can
> point /etc/resolv.conf at a running resolver and our email client can
> be set up to mail to an external SMTP server.  For a basic, working
> system that works.

Why does the base system only have to provide the bare minimum?  I want
a useable system, and not only a skeleton.

At the moment a full release fills a CD-ROM only to roughly one third
(i386), so there is definitely room to add useful stuff.

> But...
> I do think that we need to take a page from FreeBSD here and make it
> easy to install pkgsrc during the install and offer to browse and
> install packages then.  If someone wants to run a DNS server they
> probably know that they need to install something.  If they want screen
> or tmux or something else, select it at that time.
> We could strip the base install down to something that even mouse would
> run -current.  :-)

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