Re: Ports & Packages infrastructure & feature import. (fwd)

[Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden%gmail.com@localhost>]

s/mark/martin

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Loganaden Velvindron
<loganaden%gmail.com@localhost>wrote:

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> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Jukka Ruohonen <jruohonen%iki.fi@localhost> 
> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 07:24:26PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote:
>> > If only more developers would develop a sense of quality and at least
>> > test-compile their stuff, or run a relase build, before committing these
>> > figures would already look a lot nicer...
>>
>> Sense of quality has very little to do with build breakages. Statistically
>> speaking, most of the failures are due trivial things (prime example: set
>> lists and other oddities in the build system). (Also: not all of us have
>> 12-core machines that would be required to do release builds before each
>> commit, possibly on several different architectures.)
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> Agreed. Most of us have i386 or amd64. However, before I sent a diff
> for a committer for review, I should make sure that it compiles properly,
> and the developer doesn't have to do any re-adjustment. If we both
> work on the latest -current, then there's no issue. Now if my current
> is slightly outdated compared to him due to some ``build issues'', the
> quality of my diff becomes shoddy.
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> If It's a device driver diff, I'd like users to test it in case it causes
> a regression of some other hardware revisions. It's hard to get
> testers to run current if they know that it often has issues as Mark
> previously said.
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>> Regressions on the contrary are a real issue practically in every
>> operating
>> system project. Fortunately NetBSD has made some good progess at this
>> front.
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>> That's really great. ATF & cococinelle are really great tools. One of them
> have been imported inside another BSD.
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>> Loganaden and others who may want to try and track -current, a good way to
>> help is to watch the automated test results and report possible
>> regressions.
>>
> It's logan btw ;-)
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> Yes, binary snapshots run properly. as an example, on my netbook, ACPI
> supports
> more features like screen brightness adjustment, and Xorg's is faster.
>
>> For daily runs see: http://releng.netbsd.org/.
>>
>> - Jukka.
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> --
> `` Real men run current !''
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