Re: NetBSD 8, non-desktop and desktop uses

[nia <nia%NetBSD.org@localhost>]

Honestly, there is also the matter that I suspect very few people in
these LTS production environments are following every quartlery
release closely anyway - there's simply too much instability.

I've seen every second quartley which is more reasonable...
SmartOS is of course yearly LTS branches based on Q4.

On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 07:26:06AM +0000, nia wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 11:55:49AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> > The hypothesis remains that there are no people that use NetBSD-8 with
> > big desktop-type GUI programs that are obtained from TNF builds.  And
> > therefore that we don't need to care e.g. that firefox might not work in
> > recent official package sets.
> 
> Saying it's just firefox is doing the brokenness a disservice.
> Let's look at what's actually failing in the latest bulk build for -8:
> 
> - lots of random python libraries
> - fortran [scietific python, etc...]
> - poppler
> - librsvg
> - nodejs 
> - graphviz
> - haskell
> - gcc7
> - R
> - erlang (bugs in Xen; -9 has a xenclock driver that works around it)
> 
> ... and now the "desktop" stuff:
> 
> - xfce
> - mate
> - qt5
> - fltk
> 
> The stuff that works is mostly the simplest (just C, no C++ or only
> really old C++ standards) headless packages, your standard
> apache/php/nginx/postgres job, which people can easily build
> themselves.
> 
> I'd say it'd be most honest to discontinue NetBSD 8 builds rather
> than continue uploading really broken ones.