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Re: "already installed" and other problems

At Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:51:06 +0000 (UTC), John Klos 
<> wrote:
Subject: "already installed" and other problems
> A number of observed pkgsrc problems, in summary:
> (1) when doing a "make update", the package being updated should NOT be 
> deleted before the compile stage. Please explain to me why you disagree, 
> if you do.

Perhaps, but....  :-)

> (2) when doing a "make update" on a package which might be the 
> prerequisite for tons of other packages (for example, perl), there are 
> consistently problems with the process stopping with "already installed" 
> errors even though there are definitely no stale work directories.
> This problem is tremendously burdensome on busy systems which you can't 
> exactly stop and which are heavily used.

Well, I think the real solution to both these problems, as well as all
the operational concerns, is to _never_ do builds on production systems.

Always build binary packages on a build system and use those binary
packages to upgrade your production systems.

I've still not achieved a clean update of a production system from
binary packages with pkg_chk, but it's closer to working right.

Besides, it's not much harder, and it is still much cleaner, to just
wipe /usr/pkg and start with a fresh re-install of all binary packages
from the build machine (assuming you either preserve /usr/pkg/etc or it
is a symlink pointing to /etc, since not every package has been
correctly updated to fully and 100% honour PKG_SYSCONFDIR).

                                                Greg A. Woods
                                                Planix, Inc.

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