Re: release directories and naming for install images, liveimages,and isos

[David Holland <dholland-current%netbsd.org@localhost>]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:14:42PM +0900, Izumi Tsutsui wrote:
 > > > Who want bootable installatoin images without set files, for what?
 > > 
 > > For installing?
 > > 
 > > Again, if someone goes to ftp.netbsd.org they ought to be able to get
 > > installer images for USB sticks as well as for CDs and for floppies.
 > 
 > Are you sure how many such users?

No. But I would consider it a regression to have to download a
complete install just to get boot media.

 > > If you have a fast network connection there is no reason to copy any
 > > more than necessary to the boot media.
 > 
 > What actually do you want?
 > Install media without binary sets?
 > Bootable (no installer) media?
 > For what?

Install media without binary sets (hence, small) that can be used
(like the current installer images) as rescue media as well.

 > Is it worth to put effort to prepare extra images for such rare purpose?
 > I don't and I won't work on it.

Did anyone ask you to?

 > > Maybe the right thing to do is reorganize the way releases are posted
 > > on nbftp. Right now (I'm looking at 6.0_BETA) the full CD images are
 > > hidden away in another directory, so unless you know where to look or
 > > happen to notice the "iso" directory mixed with the ports in
 > > /pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-6.0_BETA, and realize it's not the name of a port,
 > > the only installer images you find are the small ones. And sure
 > > enough, there's floppy and cdrom images but no usb images.
 > 
 > If you claim bootable image without binary sets should be there
 > because there are floppy and iso, I'd rather suggest to remove
 > iso and floppy images without binary sets for consistency
 > and less maintainablity.

...so you want a 105-disk floppy installer? That isn't going to work
and removing floppy install images entirely does not sound like a good
idea.

Anyway, we've long had small CD installers as well as full CDs and I'm
sure they wouldn't have been added if nobody ever used them. I'm not
sure why you're so adamantly opposed to this.

 > > (I don't see any full usb-stick images either, fwiw. They're not in
 > > the "iso" directory.)
 > 
 > It's releng's matter.  As you claim "build.sh release" don't
 > prepare ISO with binary sets either.

Yes, it's largely releng's issue. riz is fixing it. What's your point?

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David A. Holland
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