Robert Swindells <rjs%fdy2.co.uk@localhost> writes: > David Holland wrote: >>On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:31:23AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >>> We've talked about this multiple times. Bulk builds on 2014Q2 are >>> showing massive failures on netbsd-5. The underlying issue is that >>> netbsd-5 base system xsrc is really old, and enough things need newer >>> that we are increasingly having to work hard to get new enough for them >>> and coexist with old. At this point I think it's a losing battle, and >>> there's no good reason to try. Using modular xorg works quite well, and >>> I've been building on netbsd-5 with it for quite a long time. > > Which video card families have been tested with modular xorg on > netbsd-5 ? I don't really know. But modular is what you get on netbsd-4 with pkgsrc :-) > Would it be possible to switch to using userspace of modular xorg but > keep using the server from base ? Actually, the two are quite disconnected. You can run the base server by just running it (from /usr/X11R7), regardless of any settings in pkgsrc, and I do this on some systems. What we're really talking about is which client libraries are used as dependencies. >>The other option is to update X in -5... I've thought for some time it >>would be good to do this, despite the compat costs. >> >>(Is there anything major that precludes just syncing it with head? I >>would expect perhaps a few build problems, but that sort of thing >>should be easily sortable.) > > I think it would need to sync with a point older than head, the > version of the intel video driver in -current (and pkgsrc) needs > KMS and building an older version looks as if it needs an older > server. Changing X in -5 strikes me as a huge pile of work, not necessarily ok (stable is supposed to be stable, and while the X in -5 works, the real issue is that it isn't happy to be dependencies for lots of new stuff), and not likely something that will have a volunteer give that -5's EOL date is presumably less than 6 months out, and no one has been talking about it. Changing the default is a one-byte change, and lots of people are already running it that way (X11_TYPE=modular), so it's quite safe. We can always flip it back if -5 xsrc gets updated.
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