Re: new binary packages for NetBSD/hpcsh

["David Geer" <David%GeerCom.com@localhost>]

Since I can't connect the Jornada to the internet until I get an ethernet or
wifi pc card installed, who do I do it? Is there some way to do it over the
serial connection to the PC?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wileman" <jwileman%panix.com@localhost>
To: "port-hpcsh list" <port-hpcsh%NetBSD.org@localhost>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: new binary packages for NetBSD/hpcsh


> On Tue, 30 May 2006, Christer O. Andersson wrote:
>
>
> > works fine, but 256MB is a bit too small. The extreme III is not
>
> I'd say go for a gig at least. You'll want to play, and you'll need
> space. CF is cheap these days.
>
> >> Lucent based WiFi's work right out the box with the GENERIC kernel.
> > Cisco Aironet works with a custom kernel. You do need a 16 bit
> > pcmcia card, the Jornada doesn't support 32 bit Cardbus.
>
> My classic Orinoco Gold card works fine.
>
> >
> >> Are there binaries for this setup to enable things like e-mail, web
> >> browsing, image viewing and word processing yet? Where do I find those?
>
> There are two repositories of hpcsh binaries. Torsten's is at
> http://www.atlas.uni-wuppertal.de/~harenber/NetBSD-hpcsh/ and
> wrzymski's is at ftp://ftp.netbsd.pl/pub/pkgsrc/current/hpcsh/All/
> The latter seems to be down right now, so try it later.
>
> Otherwise you can compile yourself. I do this by booting and mounting
> and swap over nfs to avoid pounding on the CF card. Obviously you need
> a machine with an NFS server for this to work. Look in the list
> archives for info on how to NFS boot.
>
> I use pine for email and elinks for surfing. I managed to get Gaim to
> compile, and it works OK once you get it set up for the small display,
> but I never managed to make gaim-encryption build. I've used the
> Jornada as a samba and ssh server.
>
> > Most things that are supported for other platforms are supported
> > for hpcsh. Of course the limited amount of RAM has a major impact
> > on large applications. Most people run hpcsh without swap or with
> > NFS mounted swap, that limits the usability of memory hogging
> > programs as well. Even if you use a swap partition on your flash
> > card it will be rather slow, and probably wear out you CF faster.
> > You can find all kind of packages in the NetBSD packages collection.
> > Either as source, or as binary packages at the site mentioned in
> > the beginning of this thread. It is a bit slow to compile on the
> > hpcsh.
>
> Things that work slowly are anything with a heavy graphical interface.
> X works fine, but I use it mainly for xterms. Anything heavier than
> that will go very slowly, and will ultimately crash due to a memory
> error.
>
> I use a swap partition on my flash drive, and haven't had any problems
> so far. Just don't try to run too many apps at once.
>
> > I use mutt for email and links for browsing the web. I think I've
> > read that xpdf works. Word processing I don't know. Text editors
> > should work. Vi is included in the default install, but that is
> > perhaps not word processing.
>
> You can read word documents using antiword, but if you want to edit
> them, you might be better off with the Windows CE word processor.
>
> Mike
>
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