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Re: install/52399: NetBSD install USB does not boot
The following reply was made to PR install/52399; it has been noted by GNATS.
From: Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/52399: NetBSD install USB does not boot
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:35:23 -0400
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OK ... we've established that the Dell uses only UEFI.
I've tried the 20170717 versions of both:
NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386.iso
NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.img
I have re-formatted the USB prior to each attempt.
I have done each of
sudo dd if=NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=32k
sudo dd if=NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=32k
sudo dd if=NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.img of=/dev/sdb bs=32k
sudo dd if=NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=32k
The Dell setup does not recognize any of these as a valid UEFI boot option.
I does not seem to me that the UEFI option is working in NetBSD-8.0 beta.
Am I doing something wrong, or can you confirm that it is not yet working?
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
> I think I found it.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
>
>> OK ... I would like to install NetBSD-8 beta.
>> The install.html states:
>> If installing via USB, you must first uncompress the USB image, which is
>> gzipped.
>> $
>>
>> * gunzip NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.img.gz*
>> I cannot seem to find the compressed USB image.
>> Can you send me the link to it?
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 4:44 AM, Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
>>
>>> Tried to use the "Legacy" mode on the Dell box.
>>> It turns out that the "Legacy Option ROMs" need to be enabled for
>>> Legacy boot mode.
>>> Not clear how to do that. NetBSD-8 beta seems to be the better route.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems that the Dell BIOS is expecting UEFI.
>>>>
>>>> There is an ability to pick "Legacy" mode ...
>>>> however, first you need to disable "Secure Boot" with multiple warnings
>>>> from the Dell BIOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just as an FYI:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Fedora-25 install USB shows up on the Dell BIOS as:
>>>>> UEFI: PNY USB 2.0 FD PMAP, Partition 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: the PNY USB-3.0 that showed up as "General" was reformatted.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Tom Szczesny <tavmem%gmail.com@localhost>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK .. this is what I have done so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed that Fedora-25 was offering to upgrade itself to Fedora-26.
>>>>>> Rather than do that, I tried the USB-route with the same PNY 64-GB
>>>>>> USB-3.0 that failed for NetBSD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used my Windows machine, to avoid the automatic upgrade on the
>>>>>> Fedora-25 machine.
>>>>>> The website that I used is: https://getfedora.org/
>>>>>> I chose the Fedora workstation option.
>>>>>> The process loads a Fedora-media-writer app onto Windows, and then
>>>>>> creates the USB-install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I shutdown the Fedora-25 box and restated with the new USB attached,
>>>>>> and went to Dell BIOS.
>>>>>> The USB was recognized as option. It was listed as:
>>>>>> UEFI: General. Partition 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was able to set this option as first in the boot sequence,
>>>>>> and successfully installed a fresh, complete copy of Fedora-26.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not yet tried the NetBSD-8 beta image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Martin Husemann <martin%duskware.de@localhost>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following reply was made to PR install/52399; it has been noted
>>>>>>> by GNATS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Martin Husemann <martin%duskware.de@localhost>
>>>>>>> To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost
>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: install/52399: NetBSD install USB does not boot
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:47:44 +0200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm - could you try a NetBSD-8 beta image? One of the things that
>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>> is support for UEFI firmware (not sure what your Dell has).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is an example link (they are changing, try
>>>>>>> http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-8/ if it does not
>>>>>>> work):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-8/201707131
>>>>>>> 920Z/images/NetBSD-8.0_BETA-amd64.iso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you also provide a link to the working Fedora image?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK ... we've established that the Dell uses only UEFI.=
<div><br></div><div>I've tried the 20170717 versions of both:</div><div=
>=C2=A0 NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386.iso</div><div>=C2=A0 NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-inst=
all.img</div><div><br></div><div>I have re-formatted the USB prior to each =
attempt.</div><div>I have done each of=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 sudo dd if=3D=
NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386.iso of=3D/dev/sdb bs=3D32k</div><div>=C2=A0 sudo dd if=
=3DNetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386.iso of=3D/dev/sdb1 bs=3D32k</div><div>=C2=A0 sudo d=
d if=3DNetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.img of=3D/dev/sdb bs=3D32k</div><div>=
=C2=A0 sudo dd if=3DNetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.img of=3D/dev/sdb1 bs=3D32=
k</div><div><br></div><div>The Dell setup does not recognize any of these a=
s a valid UEFI boot option.</div><div>I does not seem to me that the UEFI o=
ption is working in NetBSD-8.0 beta.</div><div><br></div><div>Am I doing so=
mething wrong, or can you confirm that it is not yet working?</div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Tom Szczesny <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tavmem%gmail.com@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">t=
avmem%gmail.com@localhost</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">I think I found it.<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=
=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, J=
ul 15, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Tom Szczesny <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt=
o:tavmem%gmail.com@localhost" target=3D"_blank">tavmem%gmail.com@localhost</a>></span> wrote=
:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>OK ... =
I would like to install NetBSD-8 beta.<br></div>The install.html states:<br=
>If installing via USB, you must first uncompress the USB image, which
is gzipped.
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
<code></code><code>$</code><b> gunzip NetBSD-8.0_BETA-i386-install.i<wbr>mg=
.gz<br><br></b></div>I cannot seem to find the compressed USB image.<br></d=
iv>Can you send me the link to it?<br></div><div class=3D"m_539596324425132=
1215HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_5395963244251321215h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 4:44 AM, Tom Szcz=
esny <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tavmem%gmail.com@localhost"; target=3D"_b=
lank">tavmem%gmail.com@localhost</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Tried to use the "Legacy" mode on the Dell b=
ox.<div>It turns out that the "Legacy Option ROMs" need to =C2=A0=
be enabled for Legacy boot mode.</div><div>Not clear how to do that.=C2=A0 =
NetBSD-8 beta seems to be the better route.</div><div><br></div></div><div =
class=3D"m_5395963244251321215m_6316440348622306025HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_=
5395963244251321215m_6316440348622306025h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Tom Szczesny <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tavmem%gmail.com@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">t=
avmem%gmail.com@localhost</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">It seems that the Dell BIOS is expecting UEFI.<div><br></div>=
<div>There is an ability to pick "Legacy" mode ...</div><div>howe=
ver, first you need to disable "Secure Boot" with multiple warnin=
gs from the Dell BIOS.</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"m_5395963244=
251321215m_6316440348622306025m_5156933338755679132HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_=
5395963244251321215m_6316440348622306025m_5156933338755679132h5"><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:=
49 PM, Tom Szczesny <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tavmem%gmail.co@localhost=
m" target=3D"_blank">tavmem%gmail.com@localhost</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Just as an FYI:<div><br></div><div>The =
Fedora-25 install USB shows up on the Dell BIOS as:</div><div>UEFI: =C2=A0P=
NY USB 2.0 FD PMAP, Partition 1</div><div><br></div><div>Note: the PNY USB-=
3.0 that showed up as "General" was reformatted.</div></div><div =
class=3D"m_5395963244251321215m_6316440348622306025m_5156933338755679132m_-=
5956039944003691887HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_5395963244251321215m_63164403486=
22306025m_5156933338755679132m_-5956039944003691887h5"><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Tom=
Szczesny <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tavmem%gmail.com@localhost"; target=
=3D"_blank">tavmem%gmail.com@localhost</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">OK .. this is what I have done so far.<div><br><=
/div><div>I noticed that Fedora-25 was offering to upgrade itself to Fedora=
-26.</div><div>Rather than do that, I tried the USB-route with the same PNY=
64-GB USB-3.0 that failed for NetBSD.</div><div><br></div><div>I used my W=
indows machine, to avoid the automatic upgrade on the Fedora-25 machine.</d=
iv><div>The website that I used is: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://getfedora.org/"; target=3D"_blank">https://getfedora.o=
rg/</a></div><div>I chose the Fedora workstation option.</div><div>The proc=
ess loads a Fedora-media-writer app onto Windows, and then creates the USB-=
install.</div><div><br></div><div>I shutdown the Fedora-25 box and restated=
with the new USB attached, and went to Dell BIOS.</div><div>The USB was re=
cognized as option. =C2=A0 It was listed as:</div><div>UEFI: General. Parti=
tion 1<br></div><div><br></div><div>I was able to set this option as first =
in the boot sequence,</div><div>and successfully installed a fresh, complet=
e copy of Fedora-26.</div><div><br></div><div>I have not yet tried the NetB=
SD-8 beta image.</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"m_5395963244251321=
215m_6316440348622306025m_5156933338755679132m_-5956039944003691887m_-79414=
41579128716127HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_5395963244251321215m_6316440348622306=
025m_5156933338755679132m_-5956039944003691887m_-7941441579128716127h5"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 14, 2017=
at 9:50 AM, Martin Husemann <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:martin=
@duskware.de" target=3D"_blank">martin%duskware.de@localhost</a>></span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>The following reply was made to PR in=
stall/52399; it has been noted by GNATS.<br>
<br>
From: Martin Husemann <<a href=3D"mailto:martin%duskware.de@localhost"; target=3D"_=
blank">martin%duskware.de@localhost</a>><br>
To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost<br>
Cc:<br>
Subject: Re: install/52399: NetBSD install USB does not boot<br>
</span>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:47:44 +0200<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Hmmm - could you try a NetBSD-8 beta image? One of the things that ch=
anges<br>
=C2=A0is support for UEFI firmware (not sure what your Dell has).<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Here is an example link (they are changing, try<br>
=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-8/"; rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/N<wbr>etBSD-dail=
y/netbsd-8/</a> if it does not work):<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-8/20170713=
1920Z/images/NetBSD-8.0_BETA-amd64.iso" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/N<wbr>etBSD-daily/netbsd-8/201707131<wbr>920Z=
/images/NetBSD-8.0_BETA-am<wbr>d64.iso</a><br>
<br>
=C2=A0Could you also provide a link to the working Fedora image?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Thanks,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Martin<br>
<br>
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