Re: colorls in base

[Marc Balmer <mhbalmer%gmail.com@localhost>]

New features schould be on by default, why else would we import them?

> Am 17.02.2019 um 20:57 schrieb David Holland <dholland-tech%netbsd.org@localhost>:
> 
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 01:24:09PM -0600, Jonathan A. Kollasch wrote:
>>> Can we, however, please have colors that are not angry fruit salad? My
>>> understanding is that sufficiently recent xterm and terminfo is
>>> capable of handling arbitrary rgb colors, so there's therefore no need
>>> to make everyone's eyes fall out.
>> 
>> That's more a palette issue... ANSI gives us 8 colors (16 if you think
>> that "bold" should indicate another color rather than heavier weight
>> text).  It's difficult to get a combination of
>> black/red/green/yellow/blue/magenta/white to not look like angry fruit
>> salad, unless you significantly diverge from the generally accepted look
>> for those color names.
> 
> And you can't diverge from them at all using just the traditional
> MSDOS-era color escape codes.
> 
> That's the point. Using tty colors is, inherently, repulsively ugly. I
> am asking that we not perpetuate this aesthetic crime and, if we're
> going to deploy this feature, do it in a way that doesn't
> automatically make people's eyes fall out.
> 
> (And before anyone says "it adds information! whether it's ugly is
> irrelevant" -- being that ugly detracts significantly or fatally from
> the ability to interpret the information.)
> 
>> If you want to advance to the 256 color with
>> 6x6x6 color cube, or 24-bit color modes, you may quickly take this
>> thread into literal 'what color should we paint it' bike shedding.
> 
> Yes, so someone with graphic design sense needs to put together a
> scheme, or steal one off the internet.
> 
>>> Better still would be a scheme that can adjust to the existing text
>>> and background color of the terminal, but that's probably still hard.
>> 
>> While an interesting idea, that sounds like a solution waiting for a
>> problem to me.
> 
> Why? Does every terminal window out there have the same background
> color?
> 
> -- 
> David A. Holland
> dholland%netbsd.org@localhost