Kamil Rytarowski <kamil%netbsd.org@localhost> writes: > On 17.12.2020 17:01, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> I object to a move to bootstrap on NetBSD. > > Rationale (other than habits)? I am going to defer dealing with this until after the branch. It's obviously controversial, is enough to say for now. I ask everyone to table this discussion until the branch is done. That said, I will only make meta comments: >> Separately from that, it's out of the question to make such a change >> quickly, so while there can be debate over what to do eventually, it >> can't be part of what we do in the coming days. > > We quickly broke all NetBSD setups - I had to reinstall everything. That's a statement about the past, not what our norms are for the future. > Forcing bootstrap breaks nothing, only new users are asked to run one > extra command upfront of setting up pkgsrc (+ using bmake). It was believed that the pkgdb change wouldn't be troublesome, and that turned out not to be true. I reject as unfounded a glib assertion that something big can happen with no trouble. Any change requires a real plan for all the different situations and cases, includuing migration for existing users. Most importantly, longstanding practice and somewhat more recent explicit policy in pkgsrc is that we don't make changes that might cause trouble right before the branch. So -- without any bearing on what might be discussed and decided after the freeze -- I am saying, with PMC hat on, that changing to bootstrap only is completely out of the question at this time in the branch cycle.
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