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Re: NetBSD/vax - worth continuing?



Den 2016-09-21 kl. 10:59, skrev Johnny Billquist:
On 2016-09-21 08:26, Anders Magnusson wrote:
Den 2016-09-20 kl. 23:55, skrev Johnny Billquist:
On 2016-09-20 21:24, Anders Magnusson wrote:
Den 2016-09-20 kl. 19:12, skrev Johnny Billquist:
Hi, Ragge...

Tried work that out many times, but never gotten far. You want console
access to a hung or crashed system? :-)
If you cannot get into DDB then something really evil has happened. Is
this the case?

No. Seems I must have really mis-stated this. The system hangs as in
the OS stalls. The hardware is working fine, and I can break into DDB
as well. If I were to make a guess, it appears that all processes that
do disk I/O stalls.
Other things continue running. But as most things touch disk sooner or
later, pretty much everything draws to a standstill.
You aere using MSCP, eh?  I would take a guess of that it loses MSCP
buffers somewhere then.

Yes, MSCP.
Hmm... Loosing buffers. That's an interesting idea I hadn't considered. Could be.
Just a thought. The MSCP protocol and interaction with disks and OS is.. "interesting" :-)

Massbus was always both more reliable and faster when I used it, but you
don't have any 16-bit formatted RP07's, have you? :-)

We do. I used to run RP07 on our PDP-11/70. The problem is that we don't have any RH780. Also, you can reformat RP07s between 16-bit and 18-bit mode. Which is what I did when I hooked that one up to the 11/70.
RH780 is important to have, yes :-) I have had about 8 of them, all gone unfortunately :-/

We don't really have space in the hall for putting in RP07s though, and they are a bit small for NetBSD these days. Krille is using eight RA73 disks, at 2G each. Four of them are actually combined into one CCD disk.
Around 500 megs wont last long these days... :-)
Yep. Around 1.0 it was still possible to squeeze everything in on a RD53 and run with just 2MB of memory :-)


Fixing BDPs would also help to improve Unibus speed I assume.  That
wouldn't be too much worw.

One potential issue is that the kernel is spending a damn large amount of time in the system these days. Performance is really sluggish, while the same hardware with another OS really performs much better.
...which is what we have been talking about for a loooong time. Should find the bottlenecks here.

-- Ragge


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