Jonathan & Jonathan,

thanks for sharing your experience.


Kind regards,

Petar


Jonathan A. Kollasch wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 08:57:36PM -0800, Jonathan Stone wrote:
>> With any of a half-dozen multi-core amd64 nforce4 motherboards, from 3
>> or 4 different vendors, and NetBSD-3.0_RC3 through 3-stable, I haven't
>> been able t get a stable system with the hardware (nforce4 or add-in)
>> I need.  My experience is that NetBSD just plain doesn't work properly
>> with nforce4 and multiple CPUs.
> 
> I've had a bad experience to the contrary. (described below)
> 
>> To be fair, if one carefully uses only a subset of the nforce4
>> functionality with multiple CPU cores (either dual-core CPU or two
>> single-core CPUs in a dual-socket-940 board), you *can* find stable
>> subsets; but in my experience it's not worth trying.
> 
> Sorta.
>  
>> In particular, anytime I start an X11 server, I get a double-fault, or
>> with ddb configured into my kernel, a spontaenous reboot (triple
>> fault?).  I've only gotten X servers to work with NetBSD+nforce4 if I
>> disable "APIC mode" in the BIOS; and the socket-939 BIOSes I've seen
>> do not allow one to disable APIC mode in SMP configs.
>>
>> Ditto for various builtin nforce4 hardware, or other add-in cards.
>> OTOH, I'd be very glad to hear others' success stories with
>> nforce4+SMP+NetBSD; even more so if I could reproduce them.
> 
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-amd64/2005/12/29/0001.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-amd64/2005/12/30/0001.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-amd64/2005/12/30/0003.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-amd64/2006/01/03/0003.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-amd64/2006/01/04/0001.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-amd64/2006/01/08/0006.html
> 
> current state:
> 
> NetBSD 3.0 (DOLOMITE) #1: Tue Jan 10 14:14:43 CST 2006
> 	root@dolomite.xxxxx.xxxxxxx.edu:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/DOLOMITE
> total memory = 3455 MB
> avail memory = 3305 MB
> mainbus0 (root)
> mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) (OEM00000 PROD00000000)
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170   , 2009.37 MHz
> cpu0: features: f7dbfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR>
> cpu0: features: f7dbfbff<PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MPC,NOX,MMXX,MMX>
> cpu0: features: f7dbfbff<FXSR,SSE,SSE2,B28,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW>
> cpu0: I-cache 64 KB 64B/line 2-way, D-cache 64 KB 64B/line 2-way
> cpu0: L2 cache 1 MB 64B/line 16-way
> cpu0: ITLB 32 4 KB entries fully associative, 8 4 MB entries fully associative
> cpu0: DTLB 32 4 KB entries fully associative, 8 4 MB entries fully associative
> cpu0: calibrating local timer
> cpu0: apic clock running at 200 MHz
> cpu0: 16 page colors
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
> cpu1: starting
> cpu1: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170   , 2009.26 MHz
> cpu1: features: f7dbfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR>
> cpu1: features: f7dbfbff<PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MPC,NOX,MMXX,MMX>
> cpu1: features: f7dbfbff<FXSR,SSE,SSE2,B28,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW>
> cpu1: I-cache 64 KB 64B/line 2-way, D-cache 64 KB 64B/line 2-way
> cpu1: L2 cache 1 MB 64B/line 16-way
> cpu1: ITLB 32 4 KB entries fully associative, 8 4 MB entries fully associative
> cpu1: DTLB 32 4 KB entries fully associative, 8 4 MB entries fully associative
> mpbios: bus 0 is type PCI   
> mpbios: bus 1 is type PCI   
> mpbios: bus 2 is type PCI   
> mpbios: bus 3 is type PCI   
> mpbios: bus 4 is type PCI   
> mpbios: bus 5 is type PCI   
> mpbios: bus 6 is type ISA   
> ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 2 (I/O APIC)
> ioapic0: pa 0xfec00000, version 11, 24 pins
> ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0
> ioapic0: remapped to apic 2
> acpi0 at mainbus0
> acpi0: using Intel ACPI CA subsystem version 20040211
> acpi0: X/RSDT: OemId <Nvidia,AWRDACPI,42302e31>, AslId <AWRD,00000000>
> acpi0: SCI interrupting at int 9
> acpi0: fixed-feature power button present
> ACPI Object Type 'Processor' (0x0c) at acpi0 not configured
> ACPI Object Type 'Processor' (0x0c) at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C02 [Plug and Play motherboard register resources] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0C [ACPI power button device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0A08 at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0F [PCI interrupt link device] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C02 [Plug and Play motherboard register resources] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0000 [AT Interrupt Controller] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0200 [AT DMA Controller] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0100 [AT Timer] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0B00 [AT Real-Time Clock] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0800 [AT-style speaker sound] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C04 [Math Coprocessor] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0700 [PC standard floppy disk controller] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0303 [IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C02 [Plug and Play motherboard register resources] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C01 [System Board] at acpi0 not configured
> PNP0C0B [ACPI Fan] at acpi0 not configured
> ACPI Object Type 'Thermal' (0x0d) at acpi0 not configured
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
> pci0: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, rd/mult, wr/inv ok
> Nvidia product 0x005e (miscellaneous memory, revision 0xa3) at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
> pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0
> pcib0: Nvidia product 0x0050 (rev. 0xa3)
> Nvidia nForce4 SMBus (SMBus serial bus, revision 0xa2) at pci0 dev 1 function 1 not configured
> ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0: Nvidia product 0x005a (rev. 0xa2)
> ohci0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 4 (irq 4)
> ohci0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
> usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0 at usb0
> uhub0: Nvidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 10 ports with 10 removable, self powered
> Nvidia product 0x005b (USB serial bus, interface 0x20, revision 0xa3) at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
> auich0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0: nForce4 AC-97 Audio
> auich0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 12 (irq 12)
> auich0: ac97: Avance Logic ALC850 codec; no 3D stereo
> auich0: ac97: ext id 9c6<AC97_23,LDAC,SDAC,CDAC,SPDIF,DRA>
> viaide0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0
> viaide0: NVIDIA nForce4 IDE Controller (rev. 0xa2)
> viaide0: bus-master DMA support present
> viaide0: primary channel configured to compatibility mode
> viaide0: primary channel ignored (disabled)
> viaide0: secondary channel configured to compatibility mode
> viaide0: secondary channel interrupting at ioapic0 pin 15 (irq 15)
> atabus0 at viaide0 channel 1
> viaide1 at pci0 dev 8 function 0
> viaide1: NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller (rev. 0xa3)
> viaide1: bus-master DMA support present
> viaide1: primary channel wired to native-PCI mode
> pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 8 func 0 pin 1; line 11
> pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
> viaide1: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt
> atabus1 at viaide1 channel 0
> viaide1: secondary channel wired to native-PCI mode
> atabus2 at viaide1 channel 1
> ppb0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0: Nvidia product 0x005c (rev. 0xa2)
> pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> pci1: i/o space, memory space enabled
> rtk0 at pci1 dev 6 function 0: Realtek 8139 10/100BaseTX
> rtk0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 10 (irq 10)
> rtk0: Ethernet address 00:50:bf:75:00:89
> ukphy0 at rtk0 phy 7: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface
> ukphy0: OUI 0x000000, model 0x0000, rev. 0
> ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> VIA Technologies VT6306 IEEE 1394 Host Controller (Firewire serial bus, interface 0x10, revision 0x80) at pci1 dev 9 function 0 not configured
> Nvidia product 0x0057 (miscellaneous bridge, revision 0xa3) at pci0 dev 10 function 0 not configured
> ppb1 at pci0 dev 11 function 0: Nvidia product 0x005d (rev. 0xa3)
> pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> pci2: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
> ppb2 at pci0 dev 12 function 0: Nvidia product 0x005d (rev. 0xa3)
> pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
> pci3: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
> ppb3 at pci0 dev 13 function 0: Nvidia product 0x005d (rev. 0xa3)
> pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
> pci4: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
> ppb4 at pci0 dev 14 function 0: Nvidia product 0x005d (rev. 0xa3)
> pci5 at ppb4 bus 5
> pci5: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
> vga0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0: Nvidia product 0x0140 (rev. 0xa2)
> vga0: WARNING: ignoring 64-bit BAR @ 0x14
> vga0: WARNING: ignoring 64-bit BAR @ 0x1c
> wsdisplay0 at vga0 kbdmux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsmux1: connecting to wsdisplay0
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0
> pchb0: Advanced Micro Devices AMD64 HyperTransport configuration (rev. 0x00)
> pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1
> pchb1: Advanced Micro Devices AMD64 Address Map configuration (rev. 0x00)
> pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2
> pchb2: Advanced Micro Devices AMD64 DRAM configuration (rev. 0x00)
> pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 3
> pchb3: Advanced Micro Devices AMD64 Miscellaneous configuration (rev. 0x00)
> isa0 at pcib0
> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60-0x64
> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
> sysbeep0 at pcppi0
> fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2
> ioapic0: enabling
> audio0 at auich0: full duplex, independent
> fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB, 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
> Kernelized RAIDframe activated
> atapibus0 at atabus0: 2 targets
> cd0 at atapibus0 drive 0: <LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S, , PS01> cdrom removable
> cd0: 32-bit data port
> cd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 4 (Ultra/66)
> cd0(viaide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 (Ultra/66) (using DMA)
> uhidev0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0
> uhidev0: Adomax  Sem. USB Mouse, rev 1.00/4.90, addr 2, iclass 3/1
> ums0 at uhidev0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
> wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0
> wd0 at atabus1 drive 0: <ST3250823AS>
> wd0: drive supports 16-sector PIO transfers, LBA48 addressing
> wd0: 232 GB, 484521 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 488397168 sectors
> wd0: 32-bit data port
> wd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 6 (Ultra/133)
> wd0(viaide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6 (Ultra/133) (using DMA)
> boot device: wd0
> root on wd0a dumps on wd0b
> root file system type: ffs
> cpu1: CPU 1 running
> wsdisplay0: screen 1 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 2 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 3 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 4 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> 
> kernel:
> --- GENERIC     2005-09-15 18:33:43.000000000 -0500
> +++ DOLOMITE.UP 2006-01-10 14:09:07.000000000 -0600
> @@ -199,7 +199,7 @@
>  # allocate a number of virtual screens at autoconfiguration time
>  #options       WSDISPLAY_DEFAULTSCREENS=4
>  # use a large software cursor that doesn't blink
> -options        PCDISPLAY_SOFTCURSOR
> +#options       PCDISPLAY_SOFTCURSOR
>  # modify the screen type of the console; defaults to "80x25"
>  #options       VGA_CONSOLE_SCREENTYPE="\"80x24\""
>  # work around a hardware bug that loaded fonts don't work; found on ATI cards
> @@ -224,10 +224,10 @@
>  
>  #acpi0 at mainbus0
>  
> -#acpi0                 at mainbus0
> +acpi0          at mainbus0
>  #options       MPACPI
>  #options       MPACPI_SCANPCI          # MPBIOS configures PCI roots
> -#options       ACPI_PCI_FIXUP          # PCI interrupt routing via ACPI
> +options        ACPI_PCI_FIXUP          # PCI interrupt routing via ACPI
>  #options       ACPI_ACTIVATE_DEV       # If set, activate inactive devices
>  #options       ACPICA_PEDANTIC         # force strict conformance to the Spec.
>  #options       ACPI_DISABLE_ON_POWEROFF        # disable acpi on power off
> @@ -816,7 +816,7 @@
>  pseudo-device  gre             2       # generic L3 over IP tunnel
>  pseudo-device  gif             4       # IPv[46] over IPv[46] tunnel (RFC1933)
>  #pseudo-device faith           1       # IPv[46] tcp relay translation i/f
> -#pseudo-device stf             1       # 6to4 IPv6 over IPv4 encapsulation
> +pseudo-device  stf             1       # 6to4 IPv6 over IPv4 encapsulation
>  pseudo-device  vlan                    # IEEE 802.1q encapsulation
>  pseudo-device  bridge                  # simple inter-network bridging
>  #options       BRIDGE_IPF              # bridge uses IP/IPv6 pfil hooks too
> 
> --- GENERIC.MP  2003-04-26 13:39:34.000000000 -0500
> +++ DOLOMITE    2005-09-26 17:50:12.000000000 -0500
> @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
>  #      $NetBSD: GENERIC.MP,v 1.1 2003/04/26 18:39:34 fvdl Exp $
>  
> -include "arch/amd64/conf/GENERIC"
> +include "arch/amd64/conf/DOLOMITE.UP"
>  
>  options        MULTIPROCESSOR
>  options        COM_MPLOCK
> 
> 
> 
> The USB2 doesn't configure in 3.0 (though it does in -current).  The RAM
> is forced to clock at DDR266 (though both ends claim support for faster).
> The box currently has been up for 2+ weeks.  I believe I've still got
> some unneeded (and problematic) [PS]ATA controllers disabled in the BIOS.
> Also the lpt and com ports are BIOS disabled, though that may be unneeded.
> The on-board nVidia GbE doesn't work in amd64 and I've not wanted to
> install a "int" mode environment to test sysutils/nvnet.  I've also not
> tested the Firewire, and I don't think 3.0 even has working 1394 support.
> 
> The PCI-E x16 Geforce FX 6600 works fine (to the extent the nv driver can)
> in X.org (I haven't bothered to test XFree86).
> 
> Even if I could have a amd64 box at home, I'm not sure I'd want one
> due to these various difficulties.
> 
> 	Jonathan Kollasch