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Re: pkg(8)-driven pkgsrc: Bootstrap procedure changed (simplified)

On , John Marino wrote:
I have removed the new pkgtools/pkgng_admin entry and merged it into
pkgtools/pkg.  The top-level README has been adjusted accordingly.
While I was there, I updated pkgtools/pkg to the development version
1.99.2.  Now pkgtools/pkg installs both the pkg(8) and pkgng_admin(1)
programs and their man pages.

The reason is that the pkgsrc framework emits errors on most entries
if pkgng_admin is missing.  Bootstrapping was more difficult when both
pkg and pkgng_admin were required and a user could accidentally delete
and break the framework.  For many reasons I deemed it safer to
install pkg and pkgng together so that PKG_FORMAT="pkgng" always

As an aside:
There appears to have been some confusion about the purpose of my
original announcement.  The pkgsrc parallel-fork that I call
"pkg(8)-driven pkgsrc" is not a technical proposal.  If I were making
a proposal, I would have posted my ideas on the "tech-pkg" mailing
list, gotten blasted for them, got discouraged and/or angry and then
dropped the whole thing.

So instead I just did it and I'm letting *USERS* know that it exists.
I was not looking for unsolicited feedback from pkgsrc developers.  If
many people find it useful and it gathers a following, then there may
be a desire to merge this work into pkgsrc proper and I would assist
with that.

To iterate:
1) This is not a technical proposal
2) It's not a proof of concept.  It works.
3) I'm not open to opinions about how pkg(8) is badly designed, the
decisions FreeBSD has made with their Ports Collection, how somebody
should rewrite big parts of it, or general "not invented here"
4) I'm not intending on merging any of this back.  (I will assist
someone if asked though).  So nobody has to worry about me tainting
pkgsrc proper.

It's standard open-source work.  I offer it in the hopes that it may
be useful, etc, etc, etc.  If you don't find it useful or thinks it's
a good idea, just ignore it.


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Just wanted to say thank you for your work. Looking forward to trying it. Actually I'm already using pkg on Dragonfly from dports, but I'm also using pkgsrc on my Mac and partly on my Linux desktop, so what you've done is very appreciated.

As for the vuxml or other things that are used by pkg, some of them I don't like either, but what I do like is things that work and to me pkg on Dragnofly works just perfectly.

Thank you once more!

Aleksej Lebedev

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