Re: Internet services and US vs EU jurisdiction

["Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <info%metux.net@localhost>]

On 1/20/26 20:35, Sad Clouds wrote:

> There are laws that deal with this and it may be illegal to spread:
> - Incitement
> - Hate speech
> - Foreign influence operations
> - Deliberate disinformation

And who decides what falls into such category ?
The Politbüro, of course.

> For example, in August 2024 a number of people in the UK were jailed
> for inciting violence on social media during the riots against asylum
> seekers.

If one's actually inciting violence against people, eg. openly calling
for murder - that's not free speech anymore. Sure.

But what about all the left extremists directly calling for violence
and not being prosecuted ?

I've got some personal experience with that (on the victim side).

For example, since I've forked Xorg, I've frequently been personally
attacked by certain groups (mostly from the Redhat/f.d.o ecosphere).
Not long ago, some Debian maintainers openly accused *me* of planning
to build "concentration camps" and put them into there. Not joking.

And that's not actually new to me, eg. back in the "corona years",
I belonged to that large group of people that many public figures
openly demanded to be put into "camps" and forcefully jabbed for not
playing along with the regime's (illegal) demands.

My hometown's deputy major public demanded I (and my family) shall be
arrested, just for publicly speaking out against the whole lockdown
stuff. (and our local Antifa even wished to see us dead).

And I also had been threatened to be gunned down by cops for nothing
but having a walk on fresh air with my family.

> There is a difference between critisising someone and inciting
> violence against them.

Sure. And such things need to be prosecuted consequently - no matter
what political camp one's coming from.

But only if there actually was a real crime - speaking out against the
government or corporate media is not a crime.

> If you believe the war in Ukraine is a myth, then you are more than
> welcome to visit Ukraine and observe for yourself the war crimes that
> Russia is committing there on daily basis.

War is always a bad thing, and we should do anything we can do to stop
them - instead of prolonging them. And we should prosecute all the
people responsible for the war breaking out in the first place - on
both sides of the iron curtain.


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