Re: How do people use npf with dhcpcd?

[Sad Clouds <cryintothebluesky%gmail.com@localhost>]

On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 14:43:48 -0500
Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost> wrote:

> Sad Clouds <cryintothebluesky%gmail.com@localhost> writes:
> 
> > I tend to avoid VLANs at home as they are usually not supported by
> > unmanaged switches. Most managed switches have active cooling and noisy
> > fans. Anyway, I looked at this years ago, so maybe hardware improved
> > and you can now get silent switches with VLANs?
> 
> Yes, unifi switches (e.g. lite16, ultra, flex, flex mini) are quiet (and
> non-flaky!).  You do have to drink the "Unifi Network Application"
> Kool-Aid, which is a java hairball.  But it works, and you can manage
> all your switches and APs in one interface, and put VLANs on SSIDs.
> It helps to also drink the POE Kool-Aid at the same time.
> 

I don't have any experience with Ubiquiti switches. I rarely purchase
new hardware these days and get everything second hand from ebay that
has been decommissioned from some data center.

I used cheap unmanaged Netgear switches for years and never had any
issues. No VLANS or L3 features but the hardware is simple plug and
play and it just works.

For the same price as a new Unifi Ultra I got myself a decommissioned
Brocade ICX 7450-48 from ebay. I think I paid £99 for it, including
free delivery. This has everything I need for advanced networking but it
is loud and I only power it on when I need to use my SPARC servers.