Re: sparc lost its binary pakages

[Cameron Kelly <cam.k801%gmail.com@localhost>]

Is it possible to contribute computing resources to make builds available? 

> 
> On Nov 10, 2025, at 6:07 PM, Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost> wrote:
> 
> Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola%libero.it@localhost> writes:
> 
>> posted this on NetBSD-sparc, but got no answer... so asking here,
>> maybe it is an infrastructure problem
>> 
>> I was installing some stuff... and then pkg_add started failing! I
>> feared an issue on my stem or network, while, simply all packages
>> disappeared from the server:
>> 
>> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/sparc/
>> 
>> is empty! no 10.x no 9.x packages anymore. At least 10.0 was there and
>> 9.4 too I think.
>> 
>> Something went wrong with the 10.0_2025Q3/ upload and previous
>> versions where deleted too?
>> 
>> Riccardo
> 
> They were woefully out of date, and we have a policy of only the last
> three branches for a slow arch (and 2 for one that can be built in
> reasonable time) on the ftp server, because it has finite space, and
> running out of space causes all sorts of problems.  Generally, contents
> of the ftp server are copied to archive.netbsd.org and are available
> there.
> 
> The larger issue is that nobody within TNF seems to have been doing
> pkgsrc builds for sparc since the end of 2024.  There's only so much
> data center space and electricity available to the people that do this
> as a community service.  Builds take more than 3 months of full-tilt
> computing.
> 
> If somebody who isn't TNF does e.g. sparc builds: while we won't post
> them on our server, we are happy to link to them in a SEE_ALSO file.
> 
> For sparc packages on archive:
> 
>  https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/
> 
> and in particular
> 
>  https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/10.0_2024Q4/
>  https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/9.0_2023Q3/All/
> 
> these are probably exactly what you were pointing to.  Mostly that's
> just change the pkgin URL s/ftp/archive/ and s/pkgsrc/pkgsrc-archive/.
> 
> It is routine for builds to age out of the server and only be on
> archive.  What's unusual is that this is coincident with the lack of
> arrival of new sparc builds.
> 
> As general information here is the list of package sets on
> ftp.netbsd.org, with columns being number of packages and kB.  The
> 2024Q2 alpha and 2024Q3 sparc64 sets are too old to be on the server,
> and will be removed as soon as the 2025Q3 sets catch up.
> 
> The good news is that there is good coverage of 10/11 for varying
> architectures, and also 9 for x86/arm.
> 
> 
> QUARTER: 2024Q2
>   24998    46464032 ./alpha/10.0_2024Q2
> 
> QUARTER: 2024Q3
>   25055    54695804 ./sparc64/10.0_2024Q3
> 
> QUARTER: 2025Q1
>   30408    66232004 ./powerpc/10.0_2025Q1
> 
> QUARTER: 2025Q2
>   26514    76851368 ./aarch64/10.0_2025Q2
>   20872    49485368 ./aarch64/9.0_2025Q2
>   24674    55567684 ./aarch64eb/10.0_2025Q2
>    4227     4187936 ./earmv4/9.0_2025Q2
>   22215    50386112 ./earmv6hf/10.0_2025Q2
>   21198    43769084 ./earmv6hf/9.0_2025Q2
>   25292    65915120 ./earmv7hf/10.0_2025Q2
>   24824    60436320 ./earmv7hf/9.0_2025Q2
>   25911    53790384 ./i386/10.0_2025Q2
>   23457    44188076 ./i386/9.0_2025Q2
>    9926    15142016 ./m68k/10.0_2025Q2
>    3415     2394692 ./m68k/9.0_2025Q2
>   21917    31126524 ./powerpc/9.0_2025Q2
>   10666    11355536 ./sh3el/10.0_2025Q2
>    9295     9135220 ./vax/10.0_2025Q2
>   27142    62503196 ./x86_64/10.0_2025Q2
>   27145    61159212 ./x86_64/9.0_2025Q2
> 
> QUARTER: 2025Q3
>   24958    78881980 ./aarch64/10.0_2025Q3
>   24889    78594272 ./aarch64/11.0_2025Q3
>   19894    55556588 ./aarch64/9.0_2025Q3
>   22644    53423844 ./aarch64eb/11.0_2025Q3
>   18042    42249412 ./alpha/10.0_2025Q3
>   12870    13911688 ./earmv4/10.0_2025Q3
>    2235     1558104 ./earmv4/11.0_2025Q3
>   20923    51316188 ./earmv6hf/10.0_2025Q3
>   21500    52593504 ./earmv6hf/11.0_2025Q3
>   19923    46635600 ./earmv6hf/9.0_2025Q3
>   23780    66315716 ./earmv7hf/10.0_2025Q3
>   23009    64862496 ./earmv7hf/11.0_2025Q3
>   23321    63580152 ./earmv7hf/9.0_2025Q3
>   24479    54523064 ./i386/10.0_2025Q3
>   24379    53980500 ./i386/11.0_2025Q3
>   24133    52987952 ./i386/9.0_2025Q3
>    7676    13773404 ./m68k/10.0_2025Q3
>    3085     2265620 ./m68k/11.0_2025Q3
>   18725    26520408 ./powerpc/10.0_2025Q3
>    1039     1383412 ./powerpc/11.0_2025Q3
>   12079    16196012 ./riscv64/11.0_2025Q3
>    3741     2579596 ./sh3el/11.0_2025Q3
>   14366    21553988 ./sparc64/10.0_2025Q3
>    6658     7689792 ./vax/10.0_2025Q3
>    3142     2024116 ./vax/11.0_2025Q3
>   25619    63072384 ./x86_64/10.0_2025Q3
>   25515    62856572 ./x86_64/11.0_2025Q3
>   25365    60889432 ./x86_64/9.0_2025Q3
>