Re: sparc lost its binary pakages

[Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost>]

Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola%libero.it@localhost> writes:

> posted this on NetBSD-sparc, but got no answer... so asking here,
> maybe it is an infrastructure problem
>
> I was installing some stuff... and then pkg_add started failing! I
> feared an issue on my stem or network, while, simply all packages
> disappeared from the server:
>
> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/sparc/
>
> is empty! no 10.x no 9.x packages anymore. At least 10.0 was there and
> 9.4 too I think.
>
> Something went wrong with the 10.0_2025Q3/ upload and previous
> versions where deleted too?
>
> Riccardo

They were woefully out of date, and we have a policy of only the last
three branches for a slow arch (and 2 for one that can be built in
reasonable time) on the ftp server, because it has finite space, and
running out of space causes all sorts of problems.  Generally, contents
of the ftp server are copied to archive.netbsd.org and are available
there.

The larger issue is that nobody within TNF seems to have been doing
pkgsrc builds for sparc since the end of 2024.  There's only so much
data center space and electricity available to the people that do this
as a community service.  Builds take more than 3 months of full-tilt
computing.

If somebody who isn't TNF does e.g. sparc builds: while we won't post
them on our server, we are happy to link to them in a SEE_ALSO file.

For sparc packages on archive:

  https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/

and in particular

  https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/10.0_2024Q4/
  https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/9.0_2023Q3/All/

these are probably exactly what you were pointing to.  Mostly that's
just change the pkgin URL s/ftp/archive/ and s/pkgsrc/pkgsrc-archive/.

It is routine for builds to age out of the server and only be on
archive.  What's unusual is that this is coincident with the lack of
arrival of new sparc builds.

As general information here is the list of package sets on
ftp.netbsd.org, with columns being number of packages and kB.  The
2024Q2 alpha and 2024Q3 sparc64 sets are too old to be on the server,
and will be removed as soon as the 2025Q3 sets catch up.

The good news is that there is good coverage of 10/11 for varying
architectures, and also 9 for x86/arm.


QUARTER: 2024Q2
   24998    46464032 ./alpha/10.0_2024Q2

QUARTER: 2024Q3
   25055    54695804 ./sparc64/10.0_2024Q3

QUARTER: 2025Q1
   30408    66232004 ./powerpc/10.0_2025Q1

QUARTER: 2025Q2
   26514    76851368 ./aarch64/10.0_2025Q2
   20872    49485368 ./aarch64/9.0_2025Q2
   24674    55567684 ./aarch64eb/10.0_2025Q2
    4227     4187936 ./earmv4/9.0_2025Q2
   22215    50386112 ./earmv6hf/10.0_2025Q2
   21198    43769084 ./earmv6hf/9.0_2025Q2
   25292    65915120 ./earmv7hf/10.0_2025Q2
   24824    60436320 ./earmv7hf/9.0_2025Q2
   25911    53790384 ./i386/10.0_2025Q2
   23457    44188076 ./i386/9.0_2025Q2
    9926    15142016 ./m68k/10.0_2025Q2
    3415     2394692 ./m68k/9.0_2025Q2
   21917    31126524 ./powerpc/9.0_2025Q2
   10666    11355536 ./sh3el/10.0_2025Q2
    9295     9135220 ./vax/10.0_2025Q2
   27142    62503196 ./x86_64/10.0_2025Q2
   27145    61159212 ./x86_64/9.0_2025Q2

QUARTER: 2025Q3
   24958    78881980 ./aarch64/10.0_2025Q3
   24889    78594272 ./aarch64/11.0_2025Q3
   19894    55556588 ./aarch64/9.0_2025Q3
   22644    53423844 ./aarch64eb/11.0_2025Q3
   18042    42249412 ./alpha/10.0_2025Q3
   12870    13911688 ./earmv4/10.0_2025Q3
    2235     1558104 ./earmv4/11.0_2025Q3
   20923    51316188 ./earmv6hf/10.0_2025Q3
   21500    52593504 ./earmv6hf/11.0_2025Q3
   19923    46635600 ./earmv6hf/9.0_2025Q3
   23780    66315716 ./earmv7hf/10.0_2025Q3
   23009    64862496 ./earmv7hf/11.0_2025Q3
   23321    63580152 ./earmv7hf/9.0_2025Q3
   24479    54523064 ./i386/10.0_2025Q3
   24379    53980500 ./i386/11.0_2025Q3
   24133    52987952 ./i386/9.0_2025Q3
    7676    13773404 ./m68k/10.0_2025Q3
    3085     2265620 ./m68k/11.0_2025Q3
   18725    26520408 ./powerpc/10.0_2025Q3
    1039     1383412 ./powerpc/11.0_2025Q3
   12079    16196012 ./riscv64/11.0_2025Q3
    3741     2579596 ./sh3el/11.0_2025Q3
   14366    21553988 ./sparc64/10.0_2025Q3
    6658     7689792 ./vax/10.0_2025Q3
    3142     2024116 ./vax/11.0_2025Q3
   25619    63072384 ./x86_64/10.0_2025Q3
   25515    62856572 ./x86_64/11.0_2025Q3
   25365    60889432 ./x86_64/9.0_2025Q3