Re: Upgrading from 10.0 to 10.1

[Liam Proven <lproven%gmail.com@localhost>]

On 01/10/2025 13:20, Stephen Borrill wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Oct 2025, Liam Proven wrote:
> > I think I messed this up.
>
> Sorry you've had a hard time.

Well, I can't lie, it was substantially harder than I expected.

I'm not a rookie -- I started on SCO Xenix 286 in 1988 -- but I am a BSD 
newbie.
> Agreed. While I've never used either method, the sequence of steps for 
> upgrading a major release with sysupgrade explains what needs to be done:

I blinked in surprise at this. Then how do you do it? This implies there 
are more methods.

> 1) download and extract kernel
> 2) download and extract modules
> 3) reboot
> - you are now running the new release kernel with backwards 
> compatibility allowing you to continue with an older userland
>
> 4) download and extract at least all the sets you had installed (if in 
> doubt, look in /etc/mtree). You should download etc and xetc, but MUST 
> not extract them. You can add other sets (e.g. X) if you want
> 5) run etcupdate (which I've never bothered with)
> 6) run postinstall -s etc.tar.xz -s xetc.tar.xz fix
> 7) reboot

I am a bit bewildered here.

I thought that one of the core advantages and "selling points" of the 
BSDs  was that each is a complete OS developed by the same team -- as 
opposed to a Linux distro which isn't so much a piece of software as 
30,000 pieces all flying in _extremely_ close formation.

Now you're telling me that I need to consider these things separately 
and manage them separately... Why?

I did not install anything additional. This was a clean, largely unused 
install of 10.0. No additions, no extra apps, nothing compiled, and 
never used except for a review.



> As above, upgrading is not dissimilar to a new installation except you 
> don't extract etc and xetc. Those are handled by etxupdate and postinstall.

I didn't do any of that, though.
> > I tried anyway. It ran for a long time -- hours -- and at the end I
> > was still on 10.0.
>
> That sounds like a kernel was missed.

I think it defaults to the same version and does n ot look for a new 
release. Which is somewhere between strange and insane to me, but what 
do I know?

> Remember that sysupgrade is not a core part of NetBSD.

I can't as I never knew, and I know nothing of the OS's makeup.

I have reviewed NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, DragonflyBSD, GhostBSD, 
MidnightBSD, and tried NomadBSD. I run TrueNAS Core at home.

 What tiny bit of BSD experience I have is 90% FreeBSD, though.


> It is a pkgsrc 
> package and upgrading pkgsrc package is outside the scope of an OS 
> upgrade. 

Honestly this makes no sense to me.

It's one OS installed with its own installer, nothing added, nothing 
taken away.

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