Re: Mailing list manager on NetBSD

["Julian H. Stacey" <jhs%berklix.com@localhost>]

Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Mayuresh wrote in <20190109131516.GA25962@localhost>:
>  |On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 12:03:46PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>  |> But I gradually ran more public lists for non techs, including some
>  |> self admitted completely clueless & some other immeasurably lazy
>  |> users, many of whom cant think or refuse to think, love to argue,
>  |> & freak at command line etc, so the support load on unpaid volunteer
>  |> admin time became intolerable, & I was depserate for a list manager
>  |> with graphical clickey support to seperate myself from user support.
>  |> (Though mailman can be CLI driven too I recall)
>  |
>  |Thanks for a comprehensive reply. I am currently tending towards mlmmj due
>  |to the claims of smaller footprint as I'll be using a VPS to host this.
> 
> It cannot do MIME out of the box, and it also had some problems
> when i used it.  (There should be posts on their ML on that,
> a couple of years back.)  If your users use MIME you have to hook
> in scripts, and then it becomes more expensive...  Having said
> that, AlpineLinux seems to use it for their MLs, and it seems to
> work.  But there all people use 7-bit clean text mails only.

Back when BSD users were on my only mail list using 7 bit, it was easy.

Then I added lists for sports & social locals. they mostly used
Microsoft, then their client software `enhanced' so they could
excrete font & size of the day, in colour, with national character
set extensions beyond Ascii, using MIME, then MS MUA providers left
MIME on by default & users didnt know to turn it off for lists, or
how to turn off, or to what advantages.

Majordomo was not MIME aware, & MIME obscured the How To Unsubscribe
etc list footers majordomo appended (& of course users were too
dumb to look in list headers) so more admin time was wasted, so
majordomo was abandoned.  Mailman supports MIME. If there's a
possibility a mail list server might have to later support non tech
users, avoid server software that don't support MIME.

Cheers,
Julian
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