Re: Please forgive a blatant plug: I reviewed v10 for the Reg

[adr <adr%sdf.org@localhost>]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, Taylor R Campbell wrote:

> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:53:27 +0000
> From: Taylor R Campbell <riastradh%NetBSD.org@localhost>
> To: adr <adr%sdf.org@localhost>
> Cc: netbsd-users%NetBSD.org@localhost, Liam Proven <lproven%gmail.com@localhost>
> Subject: Re: Please forgive a blatant plug: I reviewed v10 for the Reg
>
> Hi adr,
>
> Liam provided valuable feedback in both reviews, and if anything we
> haven't put enough effort into smoothing out the rough edges Liam
> pointed out, like figuring out why command-line editing and PATH
> weren't set up right out of the box.  There's always room for
> improvement, and our documentation is sometimes hard to follow,
> missing parts, or too wordy in places.
>
> This feedback helps us to improve the out-of-the-box experience for
> users, fix unnecessarily confusing parts of the experience, and
> identify where the documentation is lacking or hard to find.
>
> Gatekeeping NetBSD on the basis of prior expertise is not good for the
> community, and not good for the project.  sysinst is supposed to be a
> tool to help you, not a test of your patience or knowledge.
>
> We would appreciate it if you toned down your criticism of a new user
> and their honest feedback about the experience so we as a community
> don't discourage other users and further feedback as we continue to
> improve NetBSD.
>
> Thanks,
> -Riastradh, NetBSD core team

This person wasn't talking only about the problems that someone
could have installing netbsd. There are problems. If you read the
review that he or she did to the las version of netbsd, you'll find
that the majority of the problems were a result of this person don't
bothering to read the documentation, and ignorance of basic unix.

All of us are here in this world to learn.

The problem is when you start making affirmations based on that
ignorance missleading people an creating a bad image of the project.

This person didn't say "I don't know what is happening with the
shell when you install netbsd". This person said "netbsd doesn't
support cursor keys". Just one example among so many. You should
read some commentaries of surprised readers in that article.

If that's ok with you, and with what this king of thing does to
the image of the netbsd project among unix-like operating system
users, and you want to encourage that, I will respect it because
you are part of the core team and this is not my house.

Next time I'll ignore it.

Regards.

adr.