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Re: CVS commit: src/sys/arch/sparc
On Aug 1, 9:42pm, tsutsui%ceres.dti.ne.jp@localhost (Izumi Tsutsui) wrote:
-- Subject: Re: CVS commit: src/sys/arch/sparc
| christos@ wrote:
| > On Aug 1, 8:23pm, tsutsui%ceres.dti.ne.jp@localhost (Izumi Tsutsui) wrote:
| > -- Subject: Re: CVS commit: src/sys/arch/sparc
| > | I agree you can blame port masters if they leave their ports broken
| > | more than *weeks*.
| > Fine, let's create an SLA then. Without an SLA, people don't know
| > what's to be expected.
| We already have Tier definitions.
| In Tier II:
| >> ... keeping it working is the responsibility of the user community.
| >> If the port is not working at release time, a release is done
| >> without the port and the port is moved down to the life support tier.
Yes, but this is nebulous; according to it, I did the right thing by stepping
in and trying to fix it. If they fail to build constantly, then it is a
waste of time to keep building them. We can say that if they fail to build
for more than a month, they go to tier III.
| In Tier III:
| >> Organic ports get moved here if they do not complete a build for
| >> 6 months or are otherwise suspected to be broken.
| Tier was introduced to reduce extra work for developers working
| on Tier I ports. If these are not enough for you, what's better?
| All Tier II ports would have few MD new features, so
| they don't need *daily* checks. That's the point.
But this is not true in practice.
| We can split autobuild script into Tier I/II ones
| if people just want "0 failure" in daily buidable status.
Yes, that would be better.
| > | If you claim port-masters must check buildable state *everyday*
| > | against all MI changes without review or announcement, I'll resign
| > | from all maintainership.
| > No, read above.
| See above. I'm afraid automated daily notifies which
| won't stop until "real fix" are too annoying.
It is easy enough to put them in a folder with todays' MUA's.
| If it's sent ~bi-weelky like our gnats, it's fine for me.
That's fine too.
| If we have enough man power to make it possible?
| But unfortunately we also need reasonable compromise
| and I think that's the what the Tier system intended.
We are trying to reach it.
| I meant matt@, who committed the initial -fno-common change.
| I don't know if it was done by Core's decision or not.
He did it by himself, but that was a good change.
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