On 19/06/2019 21:59, Chris Humphries wrote: > I'm shopping for a new laptop and would like to have a laptop with > very good NetBSD support (ethernet and wireless networking works, > graphics works using the graphics card in a non-generic way, > suspend/resume works, trackpad). Does "new" mean "new" or "another"? I don't have a recommendation now but I might in the future. Nevertheless I'd like to share my experience so far, which might give you a clue for another thing to watch out for. > https://wiki.netbsd.org/laptops/ exists - but like many wiki pages, > how current it is is questionable and may be rotten. Also, most of the > laptops are very old. Thanks for the link anyway. I didn't know about it and it is interesting to me. > What is your laptop recommendation for running NetBSD bare-metal? I have a small stockpile of Lenovo ThinkPads. I have decided to use an X230 exclusively for NetBSD, that is, to install the OS on the bare metal. I haven't had much luck yet because I _think_ the NetBSD installer is getting confused and thinks it is being booted by a UEFI boot loader instead of the "legacy" BIOS, which is what I have the machine set to in its configurable boot firmware. Also, I _think_ the BIOS/UEFI dual boot loader is not implemented well. Apparently this was common around the time when UEFI started to be shipped in more and more machines. For example, I have a very similar problem when trying to install Debian onto an HP t620 Plus and I still haven't figured it out. If I am successful with this X230, and I don't have to use the semi-manual or manual installation method for "UEFI" computers, I will write up my experiences and post a report. I will also add it to the wiki. Hopefully we can start using it more regularly. Andrew -- OpenPGP key: EB28 0338 28B7 19DA DAB0 B193 D21D 996E 883B E5B9
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