Re: Seven general questions: packages, ConTeXt, flash etc

[Pau <vim.unix%googlemail.com@localhost>]

Dear Steve,

thanks for your quick answer.


> By default, they are not stored, they are simply installed.  If you do
> a 'make package', the binary package will be created and stored
> in /usr/pkgsrc/packages.  Alternatively, install and use pkg_tarup.
>
> I've put
>
>        DEPENDS_TARGET=package clean
>
> into /etc/mk.conf, so that dependencies are handled properly, too.

That's an interesting point. Thanks.

So, does this mean that if I have spent... one day or so building
openoffice from scratch, I have lost the installable file and I have
to restart to create it with pkg_create?

By the way, I don't have a pkg_tarup in this system

andromina# uname -sr
NetBSD 5.0.1

> On a multiuser machine, should any user be allowed to suspend it?
> Sleep state applies to more than laptops...
>
> On a laptop, that is indeed a nuisance, or would be if I ever suspended
> my machine by means other than closing the lid or hitting the magic
> keys the BIOS interprets as a suspend request.

Quite. Agree.

But now that we are at it, how to set up the system to suspend the
machine by closing the lid?

The default action is to switch off the lightening (I hope you are
benevolent towards my abhorrent English).

I have done my homework: read man apm and sysctl but I didn't find it.

Also: I am particularly interested in this problem

This machine is a fujitsu siemens amilo.

I believe that power is not being controlled with acpi, but with apm.
But I cannot tell for sure.

With OpenBSD (from 3.8 and until now on -current), when I typed zzz
the laptop would suspend, then resume when I hit the power buttom and
then, later, after some 3 minutes it would switch off abruptly. I am
confident about this "feature".

Why is netbsd suspending and resuming it properly?  is it apm or acpi?
If it's apm, why don't I have the "feature" of sudden power off?

>>
>> 3) How do you set up audio for skype?
>> =======================
>
> I regard skype as evil, so I've never tried it...

me too. I hate, hate skype. "But" some 12 people I have to be in
contact with will not quit using it. I have talked to them, begged for
using normal phones, I have stopped using it for about a year with the
only effect that I was left out of important things because I was not
"reachable"

This has led me to having two OS's on my laptop: The important one,
where I do all my work etc -- OpenBSD and a ~ 4G partition with some
linux "distribution" on it for the only reason of skype.

I was hopping that netbsd would solve that problem, since
(fortunately?) OpenBSD does not support in any way skype

Steve, I have seen in your web page that you have a VoIP address. Do
you have it running on netbsd? What are you using? How? Too many
questions, probably.

>
>>
>> 4) Why are dependencies not automatically done in pkgrsc?
>> ====================================
>>
>> I am trying to build tex and
>>
>> => Full dependency tex-marvosym-[0-9]*: NOT found
>> => Verifying reinstall for ../../fonts/tex-marvosym
>> ERROR: [depends.mk] A package matching ``tex-marvosym-[0-9]*'' should
>> ERROR:     be installed, but one cannot be found.  Perhaps there is a
>> ERROR:     stale work directory for ../../fonts/tex-marvosym?
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/print/teTeX3-texmf
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/print/teTeX3-bin
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/graphics/dvipng
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> make: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/print/teTeX
>>
>> This means that I have to go into /usr/pkgsrc/fonts/tex-marvosym and
>> make there
>
> They're supposed to be handled automatically.  It could be a bug, or it
> could be a stale work directory, or it could result from version skew,
> either in your pkgsrc tree (never update just part of it) or in what
> you currently have installed.  In general, tex installs just fine; I've
> relied on it for many, many years.

I installed this system from zero. This is the first time in my life
that I have a netbsd machine.

I found somehow difficult to find out which pkgsrc.tgz was the right
one for me. But in the end I figured it out.

Thanks for the answer.

Pau


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>                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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