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Re: MESSAGE considered harmful

If "unsafe default settings" or "required migration for update" will be
able to be checked automatically,  we can introduce new "CHECK" script,
same as INSTALL/DEINSTALL, or add "CHECK" stage for INSTALL.

It is useful to run such script with "pkg_admin check", "pkg_admin audit",
or something else new option in addition to package installation phase.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:17:59 +0900, Tim Zingelman <> wrote:

I would ask instead that the binary package managers please learn how
to show this information to users, because (at least in my opinion)
where I have added them, they provide information that will avoid the
potential for serious disappointment by the users.  Such as
security/mit-krb5/MESSAGE and security/openssl/MESSAGE.SunOS

If 'make install' leaves the software in an unsafe (default password)
or unusable state, I think a MESSAGE is warranted.

The latter of my examples reminds me... what about all the platform
specific MESSAGE.platform files?  Would you deprecate them too?

Thanks for listening,

 - Tim

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Greg Troxel <> wrote:

I think we have a vast overuse of MESSAGE.  Many package semm to have
instructions to the user, but these are really just the README for the
package, and I think should be in ${PREFIX}/share/doc/pkgname/README.txt
instead.  MESSAGES is a magic location that doesn't show up in "pkg_info
-L".   I realize there was some rationale that some packages were super
special, but that seems not to really make sense any more.  And, with
binary package mnagagers, the notion that people will see them seems

So I think we should move towards deprecating MESSAGE, except perhaps in
very limited circumstances where there is an articulated reason why it
really makes sense.

OBATA Akio /

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