Re: PCIVERBOSE and kern/38579

[Andrew Doran <ad%netbsd.org@localhost>]

On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 12:37:32PM -0700, Tim Rightnour wrote:

> On 04-May-2008 Andrew Doran wrote:
> > pci_subr.o is now quite large. I think it's time to retire PCIVERBOSE and
> > give the job of identification to pcictl, in userspace. It could do with a
> > way to operate on all busses at once but otherwise, it seems to do the job
> > already.
> 
> Please no.  I make frequent use of that functionality when porting to a new
> machine.  It also makes my life much easier to just ask a user for a dmesg, 
> and
> have the descriptions right there.
> 
> Additionally, as a user, I like to see that stuff come across the screen when
> booting.  I know instantly if something is not right.

Presumably these machines boot slowly. On x86 it all goes by so fast there
is no time to sit back and enjoy the green text dmesg pr0n. 8-)
 
> I don't want to have to sit around all the time looking up numbers on a chart
> while trying to figure out what is wrong with this or that device attachment. 
> I strongly object.  Pcictl is cute, assuming I can get to userland.

Ok, I'll leave the option but remove it from the x86 configs.

Thanks,
Andrew