Re: X11 on c3700

[Michael <macallan1888%gmail.com@localhost>]

Hello,

On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 07:09:37 +0100
Nick Hudson <nick.hudson%gmx.co.uk@localhost> wrote:

> > If you couldn’t tell - I’m brand new to the hppa port.  So please forgive some of my questions and lack of understanding…
> >
> > I noticed that when telling sysinst that I want a “Full
> > installation” - it installs x____.tgz, but does not install
> > xserver.tgz.  xserver.tgz is on the CD / ftp/ etc. sites. however.
> >
> > Is this something specific to hppa ?  Something specific to my
> > machine ?  

X support is in -current, I only added it over the last year.

> > My GPU is:
> >
> > [     1.000000] sti0 at pci3 dev 2 function 0
> > [     1.000000] sti0: rev 8.13;9, ID 0x35ACDA3009A02587
> > [     1.000000] sti0: A1262A, 1280x1024 frame buffer, 1280x1024x32
> > display [     1.000000] sti0: 10x20 font type 1, 40 bpc, charset
> > 0-255
> >
> > I believe this is known as the Visualize Fx5 Pro ?  
> Correct according to openpa.net
> >
> > Would I have any better luck with downgrading to the HP A4982A
> > Visualize FXE ?
> >
> > Also based on the name (sti) - is this truly text only ?  The man
> > page mentions lots of resolutions and color depths for various
> > framebuffers.  This makes me think X11 is a thing ?
> >
> > Thanks.  
> 
> macallan@ did all the work on this so maybe he can update us. Last I 
> tried my
> 
> [     1.000000] sti0 at pci3 dev 2 function 0
> [     1.000000] sti0: rev 8.13;9, ID 0x35ACDA3009A02587
> [     1.000000] sti0: A1299B, 1280x1024 frame buffer, 1280x1024x32
> display [     1.000000] sti0: 10x20 font type 1, 40 bpc, charset 0-255
> 
> didn't quite work with X.

Yeah, I have an HCRX, a PCI Visualize EG and a Visualize FX 4, they all
work, at least for me, full wscons, accelerated X and all. HCRX and FX4
in 24bit, the EG in 8bit.
The problem is, the FX 5 and 10 differ from the FX4 in the way WIDs
work, in ways I haven't been able to figure out yet. I could probably
get it to work in 8bit relatively easily - STI uses the 8bit overlay,
all we need to do is figure out which palette registers it uses ( there
are at least 1024, likely 4096 since the card at least theoretically
supports 12bit colour indexed )
The problem with *that* is, the range could depend on the card's
firmware version, so ideally we would get that info from the hardware
itself - which leads us back to differences between the FX4 and FX5.
I haven't been able to find an FX5 or 10 that fits into my toy budget,
I'll keep looking though.

have fun
Michael