Re: Installing NetBSD on HP Jornada 680 - newbie...

["Jason Daivandy" <JasonDD%gmx.de@localhost>]

Hi, Thorsten, hi list,
thanks for the advice.

Just in case I got you right:

1. you wrote: "there is also a binary set avaible from the 1.6.1 release of
NetBSD"
-since I don't want to make an own distribution, I can take those binaries
(are these the so-called 'snap shots'?) and don't have to cross-build?

2. said, uwe: "Partition the CF using fdisk on your NetBSD host machine.
Create a
small FAT partition, about 10Mb should be sufficient, and use the rest
of CF for NetBSD partition."
-does that mean that I need to have NetBSD running on my host-machine?
-if not, is how can I fdisk my compact flash card to get one small partition
with FAT for the win-ce  backup and another one for use with NetBSD?

3. win-ce-backup and hpcboot
-the whole win-ce is to be backupped and copied into that FAT partition on
the compact flash card
-run hpcboot.exe from the FAT partition on the compact flash card
-boot from storage card 2, file netbsd, root on wd (what does the latter
mean?)

4. general questions
-doesn't NetBSD boot automatically every time I switch the jornada on?
-if it doesn't, does that mean that everytime I want to boot NetBSD I will
have to do it via win-ce?
-is it easy to apply x-window to NetBSD?
-is there touchscreen-support for any x-window?
-which x-window package is appropriate for getting the most out (in terms of
speed and compatibilty) of the jornada 680?


Thank you very much! ;-)

I hope that NetBSD is the solution to the lack of win-ce-functionality. I
can't even get a working Java-Compiler for Windows CE 2.11




Ciao,
Jason.







> On Wed, 21 May 2003, Jason Daivandy wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I want to use NetBSD on my Jornada 680, but since I'm new to the metier
of mobile computing and unix-systems I have a couple of questions.
> > My desktop-computer is Celeron-533A using WinXP and WIN2k.
> >
> >
> > 1. can a bad installation of NetBSD harm the Jornada 680?
>
> I don't think that it's possible to harm the hardware (but of course: no
> warrenty!), but your memory (not the WinCE in ROM) will be completly lost.
> I've NetBSD/hpcsh now running on my Jornada for several month and he's
> still fine :).
>
> > 2. how can I get my memory card (CF) DOS-formatted?
>
> Depends on which OS you are. But normally, those cards are allready DOS
> formatted when you buy them. You have to disklabel and newfs them anyway
> when you want to run NetBSD.
>
> > 3. what happens to the win ce in the rom, since hpcboot.exe boots from
> > the compact-flash-card?
>
> Nothing. When you shut down NetBSD, the Jornada will boot WinCE like the
> first time after you bought it. So make a backup on a permanent place (CF
> card) before booting NetBSD.
>
> 4. is cross-building compulsory to get NetBSD
> > installed and working on the Jornada 680?
>
> Only when you want to make you own distribution. But there is also a
> binary set avaible from the 1.6.1 release of NetBSD. Just go to your
> nearest mirror of NetBSD. When you want to have it on a CD, look into the
> iso subdirectory.
>
>
> 5. if it is, is there any
> > script than can handle all the compiling to get NetBSD ready?
>
> compiling the kernel and the world is done with a build.sh script included
> in NetBSD. The only difference you have to make when cross-compiling is a
> -m followed by the architecture you'd like to have.  Look i.e. into
>
> http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/current/
>
> > 6. what are thoes binary files?
>
> Which ones?
>
> >
> > (the following questions refer to the how-to at
http://netbsd.triada.bg/Ports/hpcsh/howto-use.html)
>
> There's a very informative mail from Valeriy on
>
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-hpcsh/2002/06/18/0000.html
>
> with newer installation instructions. The port page is quite a bit
> outdated. You only have to take care about one difference: the -d in the
> build.sh script has been replaced by the word "distribution". But this
> only affects you when you want to follow -current.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>    Torsten
>
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