Re: HP9000/425e support at Open Source unConference 2014 Kagawa

[David Brownlee <abs%absd.org@localhost>]

On 20 April 2014 10:21, Izumi Tsutsui <tsutsui%ceres.dti.ne.jp@localhost> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently Miod Vallat kindly sent his HP9000/425e to me after
> OpenBSD/hp300 EOL, and then I've been working on 425e device support
> of NetBSD/hp300.
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2014/04/17/msg054103.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2014/04/19/msg054161.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2014/04/19/msg054162.html
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2014/04/20/msg054186.html
>
> Last weekend I also exhibited the 425e on the NetBSD booth at
> Open Source unConference (small conference) 2014 Kagawa.
>  http://www.ospn.jp/link/osunc2014kagawa
> There were also Raspberry Pi and Sharp NetWalker running NetBSD/evbarm.
>
> I'd like to show pictures of these NetBSD machines for advocacy :-)
>
> The conference room:
>  http://movapic.com/pic/201404121150205348a9ec64095
>  https://twitter.com/mokulab/status/454862728021028864/photo/1
>
>  There were various (~11) booth by open source groups and individuals.
>
> NetBSD booth:
>  http://movapic.com/pic/201404121223415348b1bdd1911
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454858056841457664/photo/1
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454847221817569280/photo/1
>
> Unpacking HP9000/425e:
>  http://movapic.com/pic/201404121320005348bef08b14f
>
> Startup of Boot ROM monitor:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454844227931758592/photo/1
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454844561630564352/photo/1
>
> Bootloader loading a kernel:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454844727439790080/photo/1
>
>  Note sti(4) support was added the day before the conference:
>  http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2014/04/13/msg054013.html
>
> Booting NetBSD/hp300:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454845230651437056/photo/1
>
> Login:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454846091410685952/photo/1
>
> Self dmesg:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454846338924949504/photo/1
>
> The "compact" 425e:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454846830027624448/photo/1
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454845563666567168/photo/1
>
> apollo "Series 400" badge:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454859564316246017/photo/1
>
> People taking 425e pictures:
>  https://twitter.com/oshimyja/status/454846670178508800/photo/1
>
> Presentation by Ebihara-san (jun@):
>  https://twitter.com/okano_t/status/454841898075557888/photo/1
>
> Sharp Netwalker running NetBSD/evbarm and "Xnp2" PC-9801 emulator:
>  http://movapic.com/pic/201404121335215348c289a74e1
>
> RPi running NetBSD/evbarm and Twitter client "mikutter":
>  http://movapic.com/pic/201404121355095348c72dd3cd6
>
> RPi running "XM6i" Sharp X680x0 emulator:
>  http://movapic.com/pic/201404121408115348ca3b59f2f
>
>  Note it just says "Error occurs. Please reset." message..
>  (xm6i is still unstable on arm, while it works fine on x86)
>
> HP9000/425e starting "mlterm-fb":
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454849379904389121/photo/1
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454849715125772288/photo/1
>
>  mlterm is a terminal emulator for X11 and mlterm-fb also supports
>  NetBSD's wscons based framebuffer, including hp300 sti(4) and
>  other m68k machines like luna68k and x68k.
>
>  mmap support for sti(4) framebuffer is not committed yet because
>  it worked with very ugly hacks implemented for the conference.
>  Furthermore, 256 color mode had some trouble (or too late to
>  choose pseudo colors?) so demonstrated with --colors=false settings.
>
> HP9000/425e starting "tw" ruby-based Twitter client on mlterm-fb:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454849950631731200/photo/1
>
> So hard to create https connections:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454856885879848961/photo/1
>
>  https timeout for streaming connection is "only" five seconds ;-(
>
> Twitter Timeline with user icon on HP9000/425e:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454864944454848514/photo/1
>
> It can also show attached pictures!:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454870755151314944/photo/1
>
>  This is modified version of "tw" which has Sixel Graphic support
>  by Araki Ken, an author of mlterm:
>  https://bitbucket.org/arakiken/tw/src
>
> "Tw" on HP9000/425e and "mikutter" on Pentium-M Let's Note:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454869984909344770/photo/1
>
> Back panel of HP9000/425e:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454871727365840896/photo/1
>
>  425e has a modern VGA connector so I don't have to prepare
>  a Sync-on-Green CRT or VGA converter 8-)
>
> P.S. NetBSD sticker for your "Super-key" by kano@:
>  https://twitter.com/tsutsuii/status/454878862556426240/photo/1
>
>
> More pictures are available on Togetter page (in Japanese):
>  http://togetter.com/li/654135?page=2
>
> On NetBSD, m68k machines are still alive :-)
>
> Many thanks to Miod, and also Ebihara-san who holds NetBSD booth
> on *all* Open Source Conference in Japan:
>  http://www.slideshare.net/junebihara18/osc100th-asiabsdcon

Very cool indeed :)

I wonder what the performance of rdesktop or tightvncviewer would be
on some of those m68k machines? A possibly cute thing to do would be
have a little amd64 NetBSD box in the corner running xen with a
selection of Windows VMs and have a vnc viewer on the demo machines
"Oh, can this x68k box run Windows? Well, here is Win7, and here is
XP, and here is Vista, and...'

Actually a vnc client which ran direct onto wsdisplay could help with
the speed...

(When demoing X on a sparc 1 I always found xkobo a nice game to show,
I wonder if an '030 or '040 would be fast enough...)