Re: tailscale on NetBSD (more $ available)

To: ci4ic4%proton.me@localhost
Subject: Re: tailscale on NetBSD (more $ available)
From: Ryo ONODERA <ryo%tetera.org@localhost>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:28:27 +0900
Hi,

ci4ic4 <ci4ic4%proton.me@localhost> writes:

> BTW, I was also able to build the package under -current aarch64, it works as far as I can see it identically to the amd64 version. On tailscaled startup, I get:
> ...
> error polling for open ports: error initializing poller: portlist poller not implemented on netbsd
> ...

THank you,
On my NetBSD/amd64-current and NetBSD/amd64 9, tailscale ssh does not
work for me.
Some days or weeks ago, it worked for me as far as I understand correctly.
Maybe it is my local problem...

> Chavdar 
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> On Wednesday, 12 February 2025 at 17:12, ci4ic4 <ci4ic4%proton.me@localhost> wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, 12 February 2025 at 15:22, Ryo ONODERA ryo%tetera.org@localhost wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > tailscale ssh subcommand under NetBSD client should work for
>> > userspace-networking, however it does not work for me.
>> > I will investigate it.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Ryo,
>> 
>> It actually works for me:
>> 
>> ----
>> # uname -a
>> NetBSD ym1r.lorien.lan 10.99.12 NetBSD 10.99.12 (GENERIC) #0: Thu Feb 6 05:42:06 GMT 2025 root%ym1r.lorien.lan@localhost:/bd/sysbuild/amd64/obj/home/sysbuild/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64
>> # tailscale ssh ubuntu@ci4c
>> Welcome to Ubuntu 24.10 (GNU/Linux 6.11.0-1010-oracle aarch64)
>> ....
>> 
>> (you have to 'tailscale up --ssh' on the node you want to ssh via the tailscale command).
>> 
>> As I mentioned above, direct ssh to my NetBSD tailnode also works without a problem; I can't get to the exported filesystems though - on the tailnet clients I get:
>> ...
>> showmount -e ym1r rpc mount export: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
>> ...
>> 
>> (the two tailhosts are otherwise completely separate - the NetBSD one being a local ProxMox VM, the Ubuntu one - a VM on OCI).
>> 
>> Chavdar
>> 
>> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 6:33 PM ci4ic4 ci4ic4%proton.me@localhost wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
>> > > 
>> > > On Tuesday, 11 February 2025 at 21:44, sunqingyao19970825%icloud.com@localhost sunqingyao19970825%icloud.com@localhost wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > Dear Ryo,
>> > > > 
>> > > > Thanks for the package! I can install it on NetBSD 10.1 but have some trouble starting the tailscale service. Please see the error message below (looks like I don’t have the “userspace-networking” interface?):
>> > > > 
>> > > > esbear# service tailscaled start
>> > > > 
>> > > > esbear# logtail started
>> > > > 
>> > > > Program starting: v1.81.0-ERR-BuildInfo, Go 1.23.6: []string{"/usr/pkg/bin/tailscaled", "-tun", "userspace-networking"}
>> > > > 
>> > > > LogID: 6e6ef0aa8d3fb3cfc2e38a54d67e975b2584a9c5defe535bf8adb04623e3a335
>> > > > 
>> > > > logpolicy: using system state directory "/var/db/tailscale"
>> > > > 
>> > > > dns: using dns.noopManager
>> > > > 
>> > > > cleanUp: ifdown=[ifconfig userspace-networking down]
>> > > > 
>> > > > cleanUp: interfaceName=userspace-networking
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig down: exit status 1
>> > > > 
>> > > > usage: ifconfig [-h] [-m] [-v] [-z] [-L] interface
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ af [ address [ dest_addr ] ] [ netmask mask ] [ prefixlen n ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ alias | -alias ] ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ up ] [ down ] [ metric n ] [ mtu n ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ advbase n ] [ advskew n ] [ carpdev iface ] [ pass passphrase ] [ state state ] [ vhid n ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ maxupd n ] [ syncdev iface ] [syncpeer peer_addr]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ anycast | -anycast ] [ deprecated | -deprecated ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ pltime n ] [ vltime n ] [ eui64 ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ media type ] [ mediaopt opts ] [ -mediaopt opts ] [ instance minst ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ [ af ] tunnel src_addr dest_addr ] [ deletetunnel ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ vlan n vlanif i ] [ -vlanif i ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ nwid network_id ] [ nwkey network_key | -nwkey ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ list scan ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ powersave | -powersave ] [ powersavesleep duration ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ hidessid | -hidessid ] [ apbridge | -apbridge ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ agrport i ] [ -agrport i ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ session local-session-id remote-session-id ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ cookie local-cookie-length local-cookie remote-cookie-length remote-cookie ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ laggproto p ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ laggport i [ pri n ] ] [ -laggport i ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ laggportpri i [ pri n]]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ lagglacp [ dumpdu | -dumpdu ] [ stopdu | -stopdu ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ maxports n | -maxports ] [ optimistic | -optimistic ] ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ laggfailover] [ rx-all | -rx-all ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ arp | -arp ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ preference n ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ link0 | -link0 ] [ link1 | -link1 ] [ link2 | -link2 ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ linkstr str | -linkstr ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ unnumbered | -unnumbered ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > [ description str | descr str | -description | -descr ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig -a [-b] [-d] [-h] [-m] [-u] [-v] [-z] [ af ]
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig -l [-b] [-d] [-s] [-u]
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig -C
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig -w n
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig interface create
>> > > > 
>> > > > ifconfig interface destroy
>> > > > 
>> > > > wgengine.NewUserspaceEngine(tun "userspace-networking") ...
>> > > > 
>> > > > dns: using dns.noopManager
>> > > > 
>> > > > link state: interfaces.State{defaultRoute= ifs={wm0:[192.168.50.98/24 fd12:1869:2151:8b46:d56:52f3:6517:b497/64 llu6]} v4=true v6=true}
>> > > > 
>> > > > onPortUpdate(port=65531, network=udp6)
>> > > > 
>> > > > magicsock: failed to set UDP read buffer size to 7340032: set udp6 [::]:65531: setsockopt: no buffer space available
>> > > > 
>> > > > magicsock: failed to set UDP write buffer size to 7340032: set udp6 [::]:65531: setsockopt: no buffer space available
>> > > > 
>> > > > onPortUpdate(port=62964, network=udp4)
>> > > > 
>> > > > magicsock: failed to set UDP read buffer size to 7340032: set udp4 0.0.0.0:62964: setsockopt: no buffer space available
>> > > > 
>> > > > magicsock: failed to set UDP write buffer size to 7340032: set udp4 0.0.0.0:62964: setsockopt: no buffer space available
>> > > > 
>> > > > magicsock: disco key = d:0f0525ae75006803
>> > > > 
>> > > > Creating WireGuard device...
>> > > > 
>> > > > Bringing WireGuard device up...
>> > > > 
>> > > > Bringing router up...
>> > > > 
>> > > > Clearing router settings...
>> > > > 
>> > > > Starting network monitor...
>> > > > 
>> > > > Engine created.
>> > > > 
>> > > > pm: migrating "_daemon" profile to new format
>> > > > 
>> > > > logpolicy: using system state directory "/var/db/tailscale"
>> > > > 
>> > > > got LocalBackend in 2ms
>> > > > 
>> > > > Start
>> > > > 
>> > > > Backend: logs: be:6e6ef0aa8d3fb3cfc2e38a54d67e975b2584a9c5defe535bf8adb04623e3a335 fe:
>> > > > 
>> > > > Switching ipn state NoState -> NeedsLogin (WantRunning=false, nm=false)
>> > > > 
>> > > > blockEngineUpdates(true)
>> > > > 
>> > > > wgengine: Reconfig: configuring userspace WireGuard config (with 0/0 peers)
>> > > > 
>> > > > wgengine: Reconfig: configuring router
>> > > > 
>> > > > wgengine: Reconfig: configuring DNS
>> > > > 
>> > > > dns: Set: {DefaultResolvers:[] Routes:{} SearchDomains:[] Hosts:0}
>> > > > 
>> > > > dns: Resolvercfg: {Routes:{} Hosts:0 LocalDomains:[]}
>> > > > 
>> > > > dns: OScfg: {}
>> > > > 
>> > > > health(warnable=is-using-unstable-version): error: This is an unstable version of Tailscale meant for testing and development purposes. Please report any issues to Tailscale.
>> > > > 
>> > > > health(warnable=wantrunning-false): error: Tailscale is stopped.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Once I can successfully run tailscale SSH, I’m willing to make the payment as promised. You can send you Venmo/Zelle/PayPal/whatever account to this email address, and we’ll figure out how to send you $200!
>> > > > 
>> > > > Regarding the fact that tailscale/wireguard-go does not handle NetBSD's tun(4) device properly so we must use userspace networking, what’s the impact and where should we open an issue? I hope this can be resolved.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Bests,
>> > > > 
>> > > > Qingyao
>> > > > 
>> > > > From: Ryo ONODERA ryo%tetera.org@localhost
>> > > > Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 04:02
>> > > > To: rxg%lavabit.com@localhost rxg%lavabit.com@localhost, wb9ypa%fourway.net@localhost wb9ypa%fourway.net@localhost
>> > > > Cc: sunqingyao19970825%icloud.com@localhost sunqingyao19970825%icloud.com@localhost, pkgsrc-users%netbsd.org@localhost pkgsrc-users%netbsd.org@localhost, qs234%cornell.edu@localhost qs234%cornell.edu@localhost, abs%absd.org@localhost abs%absd.org@localhost
>> > > > Subject: Re: tailscale on NetBSD (more $ available)
>> > > > 
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > > 
>> > > > Rui-Xiang Guo rxg%lavabit.com@localhost writes:
>> > > > 
>> > > > > On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 04:42:24PM -0500, wb9ypa wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > > Dear NetBSD pkgsrc-users,Even I would be willing to kick in a donation to whoever needed the money to kick this Tailscale project off to a start.Mike sienicki
>> > > > > > -------- Original message --------From: sunqingyao19970825%icloud.com@localhost Date: 2/9/25 10:21 (GMT-05:00) To: pkgsrc-users%netbsd.org@localhost Cc: Qingyao Sun qs234%cornell.edu@localhost, abs%absd.org@localhost Subject: tailscale on NetBSD (more $ available)
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Dear all,
>> > > > > > ?
>> > > > > > Last year, David offered $200 to encourage the inclusion of tailscale into pkgsrc in
>> > > > > > a previous thread, but unfortunately nobody is motivated enough to do the work. I?m familiar with neither go modules nor pkgsrc, so it will probably take me forever to package
>> > > > > > it on my own. Moreover, I cannot use their
>> > > > > > static builds because these are Linux ELF files.
>> > > > > > ?
>> > > > > > Since I really want a NetBSD box on my tailnet, I am matching David?s bounty by offering an additional $200 to whoever packages tailscale into pkgsrc (a platform-agnostic package would be perfect, but a NetBSD-only package suffice for now).
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > Not to sign up. :) Just do a quick review.
>> > > > > I supposed the required module below should be added NetBSD support first:
>> > > > > https://github.com/WireGuard/wireguard-go
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > and this PR - https://github.com/WireGuard/wireguard-go/pull/49
>> > > > > could be used as a reference.
>> > > > 
>> > > > wireguard-go is in pkgsrc/net/wireguard-go.
>> > > > However it seems that it does not handle NetBSD's tun(4) device properly.
>> > > > 
>> > > > I have just added my userspace-networking only package as
>> > > > pkgsrc/net/tailscale.
>> > > > 
>> > > > You can connect tailscale.com as follows:
>> > > > 
>> > > > (1) Install pkgsrc/net/tailscale
>> > > > (2) Copy /usr/pkg/share/examples/rc.d/tailscaled under /etc/rc.d
>> > > > (3) Add tailscaled=YES in /etc/rc.conf
>> > > > (4) Run `service tailscaled start`
>> > > > (5) Run `tailscale up` as root and get URI of login.tailscale.com
>> > > > (6) Login tailscale.com with the URI
>> > > > 
>> > > > I am using SSH and ping between tailscale clients.
>> > > > I have no idea about the other functionalities.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Thank you.
>> > > 
>> > > Great progress indeed, thanks a lot.
>> > > 
>> > > In my case, on a -current machine from a few days, I am able to use it as a server, I can ssh to the NetBSD host over the tailnet. The reverse operation fails for me:
>> > > 
>> > > .....
>> > > # uname -a
>> > > NetBSD ym1r.lorien.lan 10.99.12 NetBSD 10.99.12 (GENERIC) #0: Thu Feb 6 05:42:06 GMT 2025 root%ym1r.lorien.lan@localhost:/bd/sysbuild/amd64/obj/home/sysbuild/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64
>> > > # tailscale status
>> > > 100.103.185.88 ym1r XXXXXX@ netbsd -
>> > > ...
>> > > 100.83.75.41 ci4c XXXXXX@ linux idle, tx 187640 rx 147512
>> > > ...
>> > > 
>> > > # Health check:
>> > > # - This is an unstable version of Tailscale meant for testing and development purposes. Please report any issues to Tailscale.
>> > > # - Tailscale failed to fetch the DNS configuration of your device: getting OS base config is not supported
>> > > # - getting OS base config is not supported
>> > > # tailscale ping ci4c
>> > > pong from ci4c (100.83.75.41) via 129.151.82.93:41641 in 33ms
>> > > # ssh ci4c
>> > > ssh: Could not resolve hostname ci4c: No address associated with hostname
>> > > # ssh ubuntu@100.83.75.41 (this hangs)
>> > > --------------
>> > > 
>> > > I suppose, this is due to the userspace networking, I do not see any iterface configured with the tailnet address at all.
>> > > 
>> > > Chavdar
>> > > 
>> > > > > -rxg
>> > > > 
>> > > > --
>> > > > Ryo ONODERA // ryo%tetera.org@localhost
>> > > > PGP fingerprint = 82A2 DC91 76E0 A10A 8ABB FD1B F404 27FA C7D1 15F3
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Ryo ONODERA // ryo%tetera.org@localhost
>> > PGP fingerprint = 82A2 DC91 76E0 A10A 8ABB FD1B F404 27FA C7D1 15F3

-- 
Ryo ONODERA // ryo%tetera.org@localhost
PGP fingerprint = 82A2 DC91 76E0 A10A 8ABB  FD1B F404 27FA C7D1 15F3
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