Re: pkg/59530

["John L. Males via gnats" <gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost>]

The following reply was made to PR pkg/59530; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "John L. Males" <netbsd.open.source%softhome.ca@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Cc: 
Subject: Re: pkg/59530
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 02:48:05 +0000

 Hello,
 
 Sorry, but few more bugs not reported have occurred further
 distracting time need to organized pkgin bug report wiping out my
 NetBSD system as noted prior.
 
 The suggestion related to this bug:
 
 > You have two options here. One is to simply follow the
 > instructions in the message, that is, "add CHECK_OSABI=no to
 > pkg_install.conf". That should be safe to do in this context
 > (with this package). The other is to build the package from
 > source instead. (That brings its own not recommended approach of
 > mixing binary and locally-built packages, but is relatively
 > simple for this particular example.)
 
 Raises these concerns:
 
 1) Assuming "add" "CHECK_OSABI=no" is added to "pkg_install.conf"
 "should be safe" is safe then raises the possibility that other
 package(s) that would otherwise have issue(s) and may not be safe
 with "add CHECK_OSABI=no" in the "pkg_install.conf".
 
 2) This is even more complicated if a package installing via pkgin
 does not need "CHECK_OSABI=no" in "pkg_install.conf", but one or
 more required packages needed to install requested package would
 where one or more of those required packages is not safe to install
 with "CHECK_OSABI=no" in "pkg_install.conf".
 
 3) Clearly the other option to build from package source implies
 many possible issues with package compatibility to binary packages
 installed with pkgin.  This sounds like will will lead to all
 sorts of problems short and long term.  I know this first hand
 having built major package from source that then wants this
 "different" version of package(s) that then leads to many more
 packages that have to be built, and repeat often many times thatat
 times means one basically has to rebuild almost all packages from
 source.
 
 4) So far it appears there is no way to just build the package as
 binary for pkgin to install such that something like (2) or results
 from (3) does not need to be done to do so, prevent need for
 complications of (3), and not need "alternate" (3) and many issues
 can result in short and long term. 
 
 
 John L. Males
 Toronto, Ontario
 Canada
 
 2025-08-24 02:19+0000 UTC eMail Start
 2025-08-24 02:48+0000 UTC
 2025-08-23 22:48-0400 EDT
 
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 On Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:40:02 +0000 (UTC)
 From: "John L. Males via gnats" <gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost>
 To:
 pkg-manager%netbsd.org@localhost,gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,netbsd.open.source%softhome.ca@localhost
 Cc: Subject: Re: pkg/59530
 
 
 
 > The following reply was made to PR pkg/59530; it has been noted
 > by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: "John L. Males" <netbsd.open.source%softhome.ca@localhost>
 > To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 > Cc: 
 > Subject: Re: pkg/59530
 > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:36:08 +0000
 > 
 >  Hello,
 >  
 >  I have sense my prior attempt to update the bug report was not
 >  successful.
 >  
 >  I am sending eMail in hopes this attempt will update the bug
 > report. 
 >  
 >  John L. Males
 >  Toronto, Ontario
 >  Canada
 >  
 >  2025-07-19 05:32+0000 UTC eMail Start
 >  2025-07-19 05:36+0000 UTC
 >  2025-07-19 01:36-0400 EDT
 >  
 >  *****Not GPG/PG Signed*****
 >  
 >  
 >  
 >  On Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 04:30:03 +0000 (UTC)
 >  From: "John L. Males via gnats" <gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost>
 >  To:
 >  pkg-manager%netbsd.org@localhost,gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,netbsd.open.source%softhome.ca@localhost
 >  Cc: Subject: Re: pkg/59530 (Ports: lsof : The Operating System
 >  version (10.1) does not match 10.0)
 >  
 >  
 >  
 >  > The following reply was made to PR pkg/59530; it has been noted
 >  > by GNATS.
 >  > 
 >  > From: "John L. Males" <netbsd.open.source%softhome.ca@localhost>
 >  > To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 >  > Cc: 
 >  > Subject: Re: pkg/59530 (Ports: lsof : The Operating System
 >  > version (10.1) does not match 10.0)
 >  > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 03:43:11 +0000
 >  > 
 >  >  Hello,
 >  >  
 >  >  Thanks for reply.
 >  >  
 >  >  I need to cover important points related to reply, but will
 >  > not be able to do so for several days.
 >  >  
 >  >  The reason for several days to reply with important points to
 >  > this bug is I need to organized alot of information due to
 >  > pkgin install of some needed archive application few hours ago
 >  > trashed my NetBSD system in very extensive serious ways. I has
 >  > taken me few hours to at least return to sort of OK with my
 >  > NetBSD system.  I still have alot of damage assessment to
 >  > still conduct and if issues still exist how I need to fix any
 >  > outstanding damage issues.  Once I have complete damage
 >  > assessment for what damage I can at least find that will need
 >  > to have additional information taken this extensive
 >  > information needs to be organized before I can even attempt to
 >  > open a new bug report in likewise organized manner and detail. 
 >  >  Once I have the bug report of pkgin trashing my NetBSD system
 >  >  submitted I will return to this bug report to cover important
 >  >  points related to prior reply of this bug report.
 >  >  
 >  >  
 >  >  
 >  >  John L. Males
 >  >  Toronto, Ontario
 >  >  Canada
 >  >  
 >  >  2025-07-19 03:28+0000 UTC eMail Start
 >  >  2025-07-19 03:43+0000 UTC
 >  >  2025-07-18 23:43-0400 EDT
 >  >  
 >  >  *****Not GPG/PG Signed*****
 >  >  
 >  >  
 >  >  
 >  >  On Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 12:26:56 +0000 (UTC)
 >  >  From: gutteridge%NetBSD.org@localhost
 >  >  To:
 >  >  pkg-manager%netbsd.org@localhost,pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,gutteridge%NetBSD.org@localhost,netbsd.open.source%softhome.ca@localhost
 >  >  Cc: Subject: Re: pkg/59530 (Ports: lsof : The Operating System
 >  >  version (10.1) does not match 10.0)
 >  >  [snip]
 >  >  
 >