Re: pkg/47906: lang/g95: SEGV occurs when stack address is notaligned 8 bytes at main().

[Masao Uebayashi <uebayasi%gmail.com@localhost>]

The following reply was made to PR pkg/47906; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Masao Uebayashi <uebayasi%gmail.com@localhost>
To: Joerg Sonnenberger <joerg%britannica.bec.de@localhost>
Cc: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, wennmach%netbsd.org@localhost, 
gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost, 
        pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, =?UTF-8?B?5Z+c5Lit5YWs5Y2a?= 
<nonakap%gmail.com@localhost>
Subject: Re: pkg/47906: lang/g95: SEGV occurs when stack address is notaligned
 8 bytes at main().
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:51:57 +0900

 On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger
 <joerg%britannica.bec.de@localhost> wrote:
 > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 02:15:01PM +0000, Izumi Tsutsui wrote:
 >>  The all things posted in this PR are:
 >>
 >>  - g95 has code that adjusts stackpointer for the performance reasons.
 >
 > As I said before, it is very questionable that it matters if the data is
 > in the L1 cache. The referenced SO post is not relevant, as the top of
 > the stack is pretty much guaranteed to be in the L1 cache all the time.
 >
 >>  - g95 also has a silly bug that doesn't restore adjusted stackpointer.
 >>    It's quite likely because nowadays there are few users who still use
 >>    32 bit x86 for math simulations etc.
 >>  - Nonaka's patch just fixes g95 sources to restore the stackpointer.
 >>    It is a quite "right" and reasonable to fix the original problem.
 >
 > Trying to adjust the stack pointer is not going to help if the stack is
 > not kept aligned. The SYSV ABI does not guarantee that, so it is
 > somewhat silly to do so in first place.
 
 My understanding is, because the SYSV ABI does not guaranteee stack
 alignment, 3rd party programs try to align stack dynamically.
 
 How about using more reliable references, like:
 
     Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Architectures Optimization Reference Manual
 
 >
 >>  It looks you are the guy who can't admit own stupid and wrong comment
 >>  and then posts random irrelevant claims to beg the original issue.
 >>  That's quite annoying for all communities.
 >>  Please stop that.  pkgsrc is not your personal sandbox.
 >>  Please try to keep positive discussions, and pay your respect
 >>  to all other developers and contributers, to keep their motivations.
 >
 > Excuse me? I know the motivation behind the "align the stack in main"
 > and that was more the start of the original switch by the Linux folks to
 > a different, undocumented ABI. All I have said in this PR is essentially
 > that g95 shouldn't have done the stack adjustment in the first place and
 > whether it provides any benefit at all is quite questionable. I am
 > opposing questionable changes to the ABI like this because they have
 > bitten us in the past and the GCC base version used here is broken if it
 > ever tries to depend on the incorrect stack alignment.
 >
 > Joerg