On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 06:38:16PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
> On 30.12.2017 17:41, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:39:38AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 03:53:35PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
> >>> How to setup correctly vt100 in a terminal?
> >>>
> >>> I've set exported TERM=vt100, called tset and stty and I keep observing
> >>> artifacts.
> >>>
> >>> I was trying to run http://invisible-island.net/vttest/ and it does not
> >>> work well.
> >>>
> >>> I've tested py-terminator and xterm with the same results.
> >>>
> >>> I'm working around the problems with vt100 with putty right now and this
> >>> program works well.
> >>
> >> hmm - looking at this and followup, there's no information regarding
> >> what exactly is going wrong.
> >>
> >> That (plus the actual version number for vttest and xterm would help).
> >> For py-terminator - no help there.
> >
> > For "artifacts", it helps to know that you can capture all of the characters
> > sent by a host to the terminal using the "script" program. If you had
> > sent a bug report, I'd ask for that information, to point to the likely
> > problem.
> >
>
> I've uploaded screen shot of xterm and script(1) recording.
>
> http://netbsd.org/~kamil/vt100/
The typescript shows that the remote host is using 8-bit controls.
None of the VTE-based terminals will work with that, likely never will.
xterm should do this -- you can see that using the menu at the bottom
of vttest:
Menu 12: Modify test-parameters
but the host likely is not initializing the
terminal to do this - it could be assuming you did that already.
Ignoring the padding nulls, "unmap"
https://invisible-island.net/misc_tools/index.html#item:unmap
shows this:
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\n4\372\313GZ<1^NoConnected to localhost.\r
\nEscape character is '\^]'.\r
\n@^A\314GZ\260\376^Do
\n\r
\nConnected to the MicroVAX 3900 simulator CON-TELNET device\r
\n
\n^A^G\314GZl\270i\r^A^G\314GZ7\273o\r^E^G\314GZ\264\275^Co
\n\r$ ^A\t\314GZ\330\360^Aid^A\t\314GZm\364^Aod^A\t\314GZ\277\330^Eii^A\t\314GZ\267\354^Eoi^A
\n\314GZ&^\ir^A
\n\314GZh^\or^A
\n\314GZD^]^Ei\r^A
\n\314GZU#^Eo\r^D
\n\314GZ\2520\bo
\n\r
\nDirectory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]\r
\n\r
\nACCOUNTNG.DAT;1 CLUE$HISTORY.DATA;1 CLUE$LAST_MYVAX.LIS;1\r
\nLAN$ACP.LOG;5 LAN$ACP.LOG;4 LAN$ACP.LOG;3 LAN$ACP.LOG;2 \r
\nLAN$ACP.LOG;1 OPERATOR.LOG;5 OPERATOR.LOG;4 OPERATOR.LOG;3 \r
\nOPERATOR.LOG;2 OPERATOR.LOG;1 VMSIMAGES.DAT;1 \r
\n\r
\nTotal of 14 files.\r
\n\r
\nDirectory SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]\r
\n\r
\nAGEN$NEW_NODE_DEFAULTS.DAT;1 AGEN$NEW_NODE_DEFAULTS.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nAGEN$NEW_SATELLITE_DEFAULTS.DAT;1 AGEN$NEW_SATELLITE_DEFAULTS.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nAGENPARAMS.EXE;1 ALFMAINT.COM;1 AMDS$DRIVER_ACCESS.DAT;1\r
\nAMDS$DRIVER_ACCESS.TEMPLATE;1 AMDS$LOGICALS.COM;1 AMDS$LOGICALS.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nAMDS$SYSTARTUP.TEMPLATE;1 CLUSTER_CONFIG.COM;1\r
\nCLUSTER_CONFIG_LAN.COM;1 CTF$STARTUP.COM;1 DBLSTRTUP.COM;1 \r
\nDCE$RPC_SHUTDOWN.COM;1 DCE$RPC_STARTUP.COM;1\r
\nDECNET_DNS_REGISTER.COM;1 DECNET_DNS_TOWERS.COM;1\r
\nDECNET_LOC_REGISTER.COM;1 DECNET_REGISTER_DECDNS.CO^D
\n\314GZ\3120\boM;1\r
\nDECW$DEVICE.COM;1 DECW$DEVICE_GE.COM;1 DECW$DEVICE_GF.COM;1\r
\nDECW$DEVICE_GG.COM;1 DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nDECW$RGB.DAT;1 DECW$STARTSERVER.COM;1 DECW$STARTXTERMINAL.COM;1\r
\nDNS$CHANGE_DEF_FILE.COM;1 DNS$CLERK_CLUSTER.NCL;1\r
\nDNS$CLIENT_STARTUP.COM;1 DNS$CLIENT_STOP.COM;1\r
\nDNS$CONFIGURE.COM;1 DTSS$CONFIG.COM;1 DTSS$CONFIG_TEMPLATE.DAT;1\r
\nEDTINI.TEMPLATE;1 ICC$ADD_REGISTRY_TABLE.COM;1 ICC$CREATE_SECURITY_OBJECT.COM;1\r
\nLAT$SYSTARTUP.COM;1 LAT$SYSTARTUP.TEMPLATE;1 LIB$DT_STARTUP.COM;1\r
\nLOGIN.COM;1 LOGIN.TEMPLATE;1 LPA11STRT.COM;1 LTLOAD.COM;1 \r
\nMAKEROOT.COM;1 NET$AUTOGEN.COM;1 NET$CONFIGURE.COM;1 NET$DNS_CLERK_STARTUP.NCL;1\r
\nNET$DNS_CLERK_STOP.NCL;1 NET$DTSS_CLERK_STARTUP.NCL;1\r
\nNET$EVENT_LOCAL.TEMPLATE;1 NET$LOGICALS.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nNET$SHUTDOWN.COM;1 NETTRACE_INSTALL.COM;1 NETTRACE_SECURITY.COM;1\r
\nRTTLOAD.CO^Q^C
\n\314GZ\3400\boM;1 SECURITY.AUDIT$JOURNAL;1 SMISERVER.COM;1 \r
\nSYCONFIG.COM;1 SYCONFIG.TEMPLATE;1 SYLOGICALS.COM;1 SYLOGICALS.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nSYLOGIN.COM;1 SYLOGIN.TEMPLATE;1 SYPAGSWPFILES.COM;1 SYPAGSWPFILES.TEMPLATE;1\r
\nSYSECURITY.COM;1 SYSECURITY.TEMPLATE;1 SYSHUTDWN.COM;1 \r
\nSYSHUTDWN.TEMPLATE;1 SYSTARTUP_V5.COM;1 SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM;1\r
\nSYSTARTUP_VMS.TEMPLATE;1 TFF$STARTUP.COM;1 TNT$UTILITY.COM;1 \r
\nUTC$CONFIGURE_TDF.COM;1 UTC$TIMEZONE_SETUP.COM;1\r
\nUTC$TIME_SETUP.COM;1 VMS$AUDIT_SERVER.DAT;1\r
\nVMS$IMAGES_MASTER.DAT;1 VMSIMAGES.DAT;1 WELCOME.TEMPLATE;1 \r
\nWELCOME.TXT;1 \r
\n\r
\nTotal of 85 files.\r
\n\r
\nGrand total of 2 directories, 99 files.\r
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\E[1J\233;H[End of file]\233K\23322;H\233;7m Buffer: 1234. | Write | Insert | Forward \233m\r
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\n^To\314GZm\212\roConnection closed.\r
\n
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All of those backslashed numbers are octal, and include what's known as C1
controls (decimal 128 to 159, or octal 200 to 237). VT100 didn't do that,
it was a feature of VT220 and up.
233 is the control-sequence initiator (which you may see in the trace
as the 7-bit "\E[" or "\033["):
\E[1J\233;H[End of file]\233K\23322;H\233;7m Buffer: 1234. | Write | Insert | Forward \233m\r
Thinking about it, there's some problem on the host side, since
switching modes between 7-bit and 8-bit (C1) controls should make
_all_ communication switch between the two modes. (Offhand, I
don't recall if xterm would/should honor 7-bit controls in 8-bit
mode, but suppose it might...).
In xterm's controls-sequences, the two modes are listed here:
https://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html#h2-Controls-beginning-with-ESC
Controls beginning with ESC
This excludes controls where ESC is part of a 7-bit equivalent to 8-bit
C1 controls, ordered by the final character(s).
ESC SP F 7-bit controls (S7C1T).
ESC SP G 8-bit controls (S8C1T).
That is (on Linux)
printf '\033 F'
printf '\033 G'
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Thomas E. Dickey <dickey%invisible-island.net@localhost>
https://invisible-island.net
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net
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