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Re: Sysinst default root login shell

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:19:33 +0200
Johnny Billquist <> wrote:

> Like I said, I guess I can't be bothered. I've given up. This ain't BSD 
> anymore, except for the deceptive name. And I've run out of energy 
> trying to improve the world. I'll just recommend anyone who ask me to 
> just go and install Linux instead, since it's at least coherent in its 
> brokenness.


Was the "proper" BSD: 4.4BSD, 386BSD, NetBSD 1.4T, NetBSD 4? It probably
depends on the context and hardware, I can appreciate old hardware and
emulators and archives of old operating systems myself.

If NetBSD had not moved with the times, it'd also be using aout, would
have bad performance compared to other operating systems, would have no
synchronous multi-processor support, no POSIX threads and interfaces
support, no way to allow to load non-BSD-licensed code (i.e. an
eventual ZFS module), no power management, no support for large disks,
unbareably long fsck times, no 64-bit or amd64 support, no DRI, no
kauth, no PUFFS, no pkgsrc, no modern testing support, no sysinst, no
Xen, a clear-text password database, services all running as root, no
SSH, IPv6, LDAP, etc... And it'd also unfortunately be dead by now,
require old compilers to build, old hardware to run and old protocols
to use...

But I now run it on firewalls, servers and "desktop" workstations on
i686 and amd64, and am thankful to those who made this constant
progress possible.


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