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Re: GNU tools netbsd vs netbsdelf
On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 07:46:43PM -0400, John Ericson wrote:
> > You'll also find that the upstream configs are incomplete/outdated
> > with respect to the ones in the NetBSD tree (because we tend not to do
> > a very good job of coordinating with upstream) so I have some doubts
> > about whether they can in general be expected to work without
> > editorial intervention.
> Good to know. I guess if anything that helps me? An expectation of
> some downstream divergence means I wouldn't have to
Guess you didn't finish that chunk? :-)
Anyway it's not so much that it's expected (it would be better if it
didn't happen) as that upstreaming adjustments is a pain and tends not
> > Anyway, a much less theoretical problem is: if you are closely enough
> > tied to the GNU triple system that a minor inconsistency like this
> > causes trouble, where will you be the next time they decide to change
> > it around upstream as a political football?
> Well remember, per what Alyssa said more clearly than I, that we
> were never *blocked* by this. Our parser/printer in
> has special cases for this and other things at the moment. I just
> want to keep that complexity to a minimum.
Fair enough. I was just remembering the "lignux" fiasco...
> If you are curious, know that this isn't my first rodeo of this
> sort hah --- I have already rewritten most of GNU's config.sub:
> . It seems these configs aren't organized that much --- these
> issues arise because no one bothers to systematize them, not
> because of excessive meddling upstream. The fact that I am
> proposing a change that could have been made decades ago, as you
> say, makes me think these inconsistencies pop up quite slowly, so
> it shouldn't be too hard to keep up.
They aren't organized at all; they're completely ad hoc. Everything
would benefit from systematizing the configury and shoveling out the
mess of arbitrary #defines and #undefs and subtly order-dependent
declarations that get spit out. But that's a huge job and I get the
feeling it would be pushing in the opposite direction from upstream.
David A. Holland
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