On 21.02.2020 01:34, Chris Hanson wrote: > On Feb 20, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Kamil Rytarowski <n54%gmx.com@localhost> wrote: >> >> On 20.02.2020 20:32, Chris Hanson wrote: >>> On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Kamil Rytarowski <n54%gmx.com@localhost> wrote: >>>> >>>> xsrc (or at least its content) will be still around for foreseeable future. >>>> >>>> wayland in theory does not have special hardware requirements that are >>>> higher than xorg. It is probably lighter in practice. but it needs >>>> people porting existing hardware to it. >>> >>> So you’re saying you expect Wayland and applications written for it should work fine on a 16MHz 68020 with a 1-bit framebuffer? >>> >> >> wayland is a protocol and it should handle 1-bit framebuffer. > > Please don’t fall back to “it’s just a protocol” and “should.” Does any concrete implementation of Wayland currently support things like 1- to 8-bit framebuffers without any sort of hardware compositing? Do any concrete implementations actually run with reasonable performance on the variety of hardware that NetBSD supports? > wayland is agnostic to 1 or 8-bit framebuffers. It's a matter of picking or developing a compositor for wayland. A compositor can use plain 1-bit framebuffer and in theory preexisting NetBSD video device drivers. I am not familiar with any plans in TNF or out of it to write wayland compositor for m68k. You could develop one, hire a programmer to code it for you or stay with preexisting X stack. >> In practice we will likely preserve Xorg for tier2/tier3 machines as >> long as they will be supported. > > You were just saying that it’d be discontinued and archived. Which is it? > >> Out of tier1 ports, on amd64/aarch64 we might switch completely to >> wayland but it will be a process taking years. > > Who’s we and why would we “switch" to it? Rather than just have it available as another alternative to use? > Xorg at some point of time will be discontinued upstream and EOLed. There will be no new device drivers, no new Mesa, no new DEs/WMs etc and it will be defunct at some point. Once it will have near 0 value for near 100% users it's not realistic to expect the developers to keep it fully operational forever. Xorg (and xfree86) will stay around for foreseeable future for legacy reasons. The X protocol will probably stay around (at least in a maintstream usage) for at least a few decades. Future of X on UNIX is most likely xwayland, on top of a wayland compositor. > -- Chris > >
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