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Re: let's get small

I don't think the goal was to move them out of base.  I think what's
wanted is them to have a smaller footprint.  This functionality is
needed in small systems.  Tho, hardware is catching up.  In some
places we've got 32M of system RAM!


On 2/26/07, Steven M. Bellovin <> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:03:00 -0600
David Young <> wrote:

> Do you have any ideas what can be done to these huge programs in the
> base system to make them small yet reasonably effective on an
> IPv4/IPv6 router/bridge?
>         * wpa_supplicant
>         * hostapd
>         * dig / host
>         * dhclient
>         * dhcpd
>         * netstat
>         * pfctl
>         * tcpdump
Which should be in pkgsrc instead?  (I'd ask "which should be in an
optional syspkg instead, but that would open a different thread...)
My candidates would include hostapd, dhcpd, and tcpdump.  I might
include dig, but I think it's part of bind and hence harder to move.
OTOH, maybe we shouldn't have any of bind in the base system.  Besides,
it's such a generally useful debuggin tool.

My rationale for these choices: they're specialized applications needed
by only a few hosts.

I'm surprised there's no simpler dhclient in pkgsrc.

                --Steve Bellovin,

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