Subject: Re: is anyone still working on this port?
To: Stephane Engel <steph@Macchiati.org>
From: Sheree Hemphill <sah18@sbcglobal.net>
List: port-hpcarm
Date: 09/08/2004 07:07:27
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Stephane,
Thank you also for responding.  I'll have a look at the links you provided!
-sheree


Stephane Engel <steph@Macchiati.org> wrote:
Quoting Herb Peyerl :

>
> On Sep 8, 2004, at 6:43 AM, Sheree Hemphill wrote:
> > I do have 2 basic questions so far:
> > 1. To install netbsd on the jornada, is it necessary to have a machine
> > that is already running netbsd?  I only currently have 2 windows xp
> > machines.  I did also create a Knoppix 3.6 cd, however, and was
> > wondering if that would be sufficient.
> > 2. I'm starting out by trying to follow the instructions here:
> > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/hpcarm/howto-use.html
> > This page indicates that there are 3 files needed:
> > ---
> > You need at least 3 files to start NetBSD/hpcarm.
> > hpcboot.exe
> > bootloader which runs in the WindowsCE environment. It currently
> > supports WinCE2.11 and PocketPC(WinCE 3.xx) machines. It is available
> > at sys/arch/hpc/stand/binary/ARM/. (From the NetBSD-current sources;
> > see Tracking NetBSD-current.)
> > netbsd (kernel)
> > For testing(JORNADA720):
> > ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/arch/hpcarm/snapshot/kernel/netbsd-
> > JORNADA720-20010623.gz
> > miniroot.fs (filesystem image, generated with vnconfig)
> > Coming soon.
> > ---
> > The link for the netbsd-JORNADA720-20010623.gz file is good.
> > However, do you know where I can find the miniroot.fs?  I don't
> > understand what this is exactly or what it is used for.
> > Also, I do already have an hpcboot.exe file -- I think I can use what
> > I have, but I'm not sure (I'll try it and see).
>
> I don't know where to get miniroot.fs but you may not need it. The
> kernel probably has a miniroot built into it already so when you boot
> the kernel off your flash card with hpcboot.exe, you will get a
> memory-disk filesystem already. Just hit return when the kernel
> prompts you for 'root device' and 'swap device'... Once you're in the
> shell, you can use fdisk, disklabel, newfs, and so on to build your
> flash filesystem You'll probably also be able to ifconfig and ftp the
> rest of the distribution and untar it... You'll need to slide a NIC
> into the pccard slot if you want to download the rest of the
> distribution.
>
> Having another unix machine handy is helpful so you can untar the
> distribution and pick/choose the pieces you want. I have a 256MB card
> in my Jornada and that is lots of room for a base OS and X... If you
> just have XP machines, then you can probably grab cygwin, and use that
> to download, untar the distribution, and pick/choose your bits...
>
> Like I say, I haven't gone through the installation in a long time and
> I did my installation on another NetBSD machine anyway.
>
> > Let me know if you have any thoughts on this.  Or if you have any
> > tips/instructions on how to proceed.  I'm a linux newbie, so I want to
> > minimize the problems I may run into!
> >
>
> You should probably not listen to anything I say. I'm only guessing
> how it's put together. There are probably smarter people around who
> are more acquainted with how things are done these days.
>
>
>

I don't think that my old post
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-hpcarm/2002/09/05/0001.html
is too out of date ...

Have a look to the ML, you'll fnd there some other interesting Install Tips as
- http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-hpcarm/2003/06/06/0000.html


If I remember well, someone did wrote a procedure to install it with a modified
sysinst version ...



--
Stephane Engel 
http://www.macchiati.org/

"Quando camminerete sulla terra dopo avere volato, guarderete il cielo
perche' la siete stati e la' vorrete tornare"
Leonardo da Vinci


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<DIV>Stephane,</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you also for responding.&nbsp; I'll have a look at the links you provided!</DIV>
<DIV>-sheree</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Stephane Engel &lt;steph@Macchiati.org&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Quoting Herb Peyerl <HPEYERL@BEER.ORG>:<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On Sep 8, 2004, at 6:43 AM, Sheree Hemphill wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; I do have 2 basic questions so far:<BR>&gt; &gt; 1. To install netbsd on the jornada, is it necessary to have a machine<BR>&gt; &gt; that is already running netbsd?&nbsp; I only currently have 2 windows xp<BR>&gt; &gt; machines.&nbsp; I did also create&nbsp;a Knoppix 3.6 cd, however, and was<BR>&gt; &gt; wondering if that would be sufficient.<BR>&gt; &gt; 2. I'm starting out by trying to follow the instructions here:<BR>&gt; &gt; http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/hpcarm/howto-use.html<BR>&gt; &gt; This page indicates that there are 3 files needed:<BR>&gt; &gt; ---<BR>&gt; &gt; You need at least 3 files to start NetBSD/hpcarm.<BR>&gt; &gt; hpcboot.exe<BR>&gt; &gt; bootloader which runs in the WindowsCE environment. It currently<BR>&gt; &gt; supports WinCE2.11 an
 d
 PocketPC(WinCE 3.xx) machines. It is available<BR>&gt; &gt; at sys/arch/hpc/stand/binary/ARM/. (From the NetBSD-current sources;<BR>&gt; &gt; see Tracking NetBSD-current.)<BR>&gt; &gt; netbsd (kernel)<BR>&gt; &gt; For testing(JORNADA720):<BR>&gt; &gt; ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/arch/hpcarm/snapshot/kernel/netbsd-<BR>&gt; &gt; JORNADA720-20010623.gz<BR>&gt; &gt; miniroot.fs (filesystem image, generated with vnconfig)<BR>&gt; &gt; Coming soon.<BR>&gt; &gt; ---<BR>&gt; &gt; The link for the netbsd-JORNADA720-20010623.gz file is good.<BR>&gt; &gt; However, do you know where I can find the miniroot.fs?&nbsp; I don't<BR>&gt; &gt; understand what this is exactly or what it is used for.<BR>&gt; &gt; Also, I do already have an hpcboot.exe file -- I think I can use what<BR>&gt; &gt; I have, but I'm not sure (I'll try it and see).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I don't know where to get miniroot.fs but you may not need it. The<BR>&gt; kernel probably has a miniroot built into it already so when 
 you
 boot<BR>&gt; the kernel off your flash card with hpcboot.exe, you will get a<BR>&gt; memory-disk filesystem already. Just hit return when the kernel<BR>&gt; prompts you for 'root device' and 'swap device'... Once you're in the<BR>&gt; shell, you can use fdisk, disklabel, newfs, and so on to build your<BR>&gt; flash filesystem You'll probably also be able to ifconfig and ftp the<BR>&gt; rest of the distribution and untar it... You'll need to slide a NIC<BR>&gt; into the pccard slot if you want to download the rest of the<BR>&gt; distribution.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Having another unix machine handy is helpful so you can untar the<BR>&gt; distribution and pick/choose the pieces you want. I have a 256MB card<BR>&gt; in my Jornada and that is lots of room for a base OS and X... If you<BR>&gt; just have XP machines, then you can probably grab cygwin, and use that<BR>&gt; to download, untar the distribution, and pick/choose your bits...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Like I say, I haven't gone through 
 the
 installation in a long time and<BR>&gt; I did my installation on another NetBSD machine anyway.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Let me know if you have any thoughts on this.&nbsp; Or if you have any<BR>&gt; &gt; tips/instructions on how to proceed.&nbsp; I'm a linux newbie, so I want to<BR>&gt; &gt; minimize the problems I may run into!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; You should probably not listen to anything I say. I'm only guessing<BR>&gt; how it's put together. There are probably smarter people around who<BR>&gt; are more acquainted with how things are done these days.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR>I don't think that my old post<BR>http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-hpcarm/2002/09/05/0001.html<BR>is too out of date ...<BR><BR>Have a look to the ML, you'll fnd there some other interesting Install Tips as<BR>- http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-hpcarm/2003/06/06/0000.html<BR><BR><BR>If I remember well, someone did wrote a procedure to install it with a modified<BR>sysinst version
 ...<BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Stephane Engel <STEPH[AT]MACCHIATI.ORG><BR>http://www.macchiati.org/<BR><BR>"Quando camminerete sulla terra dopo avere volato, guarderete il cielo<BR>perche' la siete stati e la' vorrete tornare"<BR>Leonardo da Vinci<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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