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Re: How to automatically update dependencies when building a package?
On 13 Feb 2011 at 7:42, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> I wouldn't have thought updating pkgsrc would cause ABI conflicts and make
> packages incompatible.
> FreeBSD ports system does not have that problem; no problem running
> portsnap fetch update
> I never even heard of ABI in FreeBSD.
> Now I see why there is a quarterly pkgsrc in addition to current pkgsrc in
> NetBSD pkgsrc, unlike FreeBSD ports and source-based Linux package managers.
> But I don't want to wait three months when a new release of something like
> Gnumeric or Seamonkey comes out; I also might want to test a new beta release
> installed to a different prefix to avoid conflict with installed stable
> version. What if there is a security update, then also I don't want to wait
> for the next quarterly pkgsrc.
> I guess I have to run
> make depends-options
> in all packages of interest and build all in quick succession, after setting
> options of interest.
> This could mean an extended downtime on the computer.
> I'm afraid running pkg_rolling-replace on a system with a lot of packages
> could take an awful long time, like several days.
I build packages for my pcs on one of two fileservers.
With 2010Q4 and 1600+ existing packages I gave up to
pkg_rolling-replace with around 160 still to go. After
that I used pkg_chk to delete all packages still to
replace and used "pkg_chk -s -a" to go through
remainder. None of the packages deleted by pkg_chk
were in use on fileserver so no downtime.
Next quarter I intend to try pkg_comp to do upgrade
in a chroot on the fileserver. Pkg_rolling-replace
or pkg_chk can then be used to update from the
prebuilt packages. Using pkg_chk if needed might
involve some downtime.
My experience with updates to Linux and FreeBSD have
mainly been from binaries rather than from source and
I wouldn't compare that with buiding from source on
NetBSD. When I started with NetBSD-1.5x and pcs with
only 8 MB ram I was able to install the few packages
I needed from prebuilt binaries and later on more
capable hardware X-windows desktop which was comparable
to binary package installs on other os.
> I see Gentoo (http://www.gentoo.org/) has several projects in the works,
> including porting to the BSDs and other quasi-Unixes.
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