Re. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/2003/12/25/0000.html (Chuck Yerkes's reply.) Thanks. I was using ipf to turn off port 25, but restricting the mailer to only listen on 127.0.0.1 should be done, too. (^& Then two things have to fail before it can receive email. -- "I probably don't know what I'm talking about." http://www.olib.org/~rkr/