Re: Pkgsrc issue

[Don Lee <MacPPC2%c.icompute.com@localhost>]

I think I may have struck a nerve.

The consensus is that 8.2 is very old and I should upgrade.

As a software developer, I understand completely.

As a lowly user, I never want to upgrade *anything* that is working - ever. (You _never_ trade non-working for working, you trade the old bugs for a new set of bugs. ;-> )

Clearly the fix to my pkgin problem is right in front of me - if I make the effort to (gulp) upgrade.

I’ll report back.

Thank you all.

-dgl-

> On Apr 30, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Havard Eidnes <he%NetBSD.org@localhost> wrote:
> 
>> I have a PPC Mac Mini running NetBSD 8.2.  It's stable and
>> functional. It serves me well.
> 
> Yes, but it's now running an OS which is becoming old and which
> is about to be "de-supported" wrt. pkgsrc updates (to the extent
> we "support" it).  The basic problem is that the supplied
> compiler is quite old, and it shows -- the machine I've been
> doing pkgsrc bulk builds on for 8.x says:
> 
> $ uname -pmr
> 8.0 macppc powerpc
> $ gcc --version
> gcc (nb2 20180327) 5.5.0
> Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> 
> $
> 
> As for why it shows, see below.
> 
>> I have been using pkgin to install packages and update them
>> with "pkgin upgrade".
>> 
>> My recent attempts to upgrade have been ended by pkgin telling me:
>> 
>> +mercy$ pkgin upgrade
>> calculating dependencies...|
>> glib2>=2.76.4nb1 is not available in the repository
>> proceed ? [y/N]
>> 
>> So I checked on glib2, and it really should be in the pkgsrc
>> binary packages, but it is not there in the 8.2 ppc pkgsrc
>> binaries. I also have amd64 machines and they have glib2.
> 
> Yep.
> 
> The bulk build report corresponding to the latest 8.0 package
> build is at
> 
> http://castor.urc.uninett.no/reports/macppc/8.0/2023Q4/20240102.2031/meta/report.html
> 
> and the build log for glib2 is at
> 
> http://castor.urc.uninett.no/reports/macppc/8.0/2023Q4/20240102.2031/glib2-2.78.1nb1/build.log
> 
> and shows that the build failed due to the compiler core-
> dumping, and I suspect that if you bring that issue up with the
> glib2 maintainers, you'll be told "please upgrade your compiler".
> If you try to bring that issue up with the gcc maintainers, I
> suspect the response will basically be the same.
> 
> I don't think "the compiler crashes when building glib2" can be
> attributed to any of the modification we've done to the compiler;
> we try to minimize that set of changes.
> 
>> How should I go about reporting this issue and hopefully
>> getting it fixed.
>> 
>> I *believe* I could fix this by upgrading NetBSD to 9.0+.
>> Unfortunately, that would be hard for me, at least now.
> 
> I think I would encourage that course of action, to plan such an
> upgrade, even though it might be somewhat hard (if I recall you
> need to use "the right" ofwboot.xcf, and some of the versions we
> have distributed have been ... problematical).
> 
> The glib2 package is available for both the 9.x versions and for
> 10.0 -- on our ftp server:
> 
> % pwd
> /ftp/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/powerpc
> % ls -ltr {9.0,10.0}/All/glib2-2* | grep -v Q
> -rw-r--r--  1 he  netbsd  5353306 Dec 18 08:33 10.0/All/glib2-2.76.5.tgz
> -rw-r--r--  1 he  netbsd  5435273 Feb 12 06:31 9.0/All/glib2-2.78.1nb1.tgz
> % 
> 
> The most recent bulk build report for NetBSD/macppc 10.0 is at
> 
> http://castor.urc.uninett.no/reports/macppc/10.0/2023Q3/20231218.0022/meta/report.html
> 
> and has a much larger set of successfully built packages compared
> to the 8.0 set.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> - Håvard