[ On Wednesday, February 11, 2004 at 22:02:32 (+0000), David Laight wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: remove default of STRIPFLAG=-s ?
>
> But only because we don't have #ident lines in all the header files.

Yes, which is too bad...

> Do that and 'mcs -c' is your friend.

Indeed!

> IMHO we should build without removing any symbols, then strip for
> installation.  The assumption then is that the build tree has the
> symbols in it - maybe the unstripped binaries should be available
> for the release CDs?

Yes, this is what I've been doing (along with static linking too, of
course).

I do a full "build.sh" run with STRIPFLAG clear and with '-g' on
everything.

Then I do additional installs into a new DESTDIR and RELEASEDIR with
STRIPFLAG="'-sS -g'".  Here's how the last part works in the snip-it
from my "mybuild.sh" script that wraps it all together neatly, including
for /usr/xsrc:

${TOOLDIR}/bin/nbmake-${TARGET_MACHINE} STRIPFLAG="'-sS -g'" UNPRIVED=yes UPDATE=yes DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}-no-g RELEASEDIR=${RELEASEDIR}-no-g do-distrib-dirs
${TOOLDIR}/bin/nbmake-${TARGET_MACHINE} STRIPFLAG="'-sS -g'" UNPRIVED=yes UPDATE=yes DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}-no-g RELEASEDIR=${RELEASEDIR}-no-g includes
${TOOLDIR}/bin/nbmake-${TARGET_MACHINE} STRIPFLAG="'-sS -g'" UNPRIVED=yes UPDATE=yes DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}-no-g RELEASEDIR=${RELEASEDIR}-no-g BUILD_tool=no install
${TOOLDIR}/bin/nbmake-${TARGET_MACHINE} STRIPFLAG="'-sS -g'" UNPRIVED=yes UPDATE=yes DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}-no-g RELEASEDIR=${RELEASEDIR}-no-g BUILD_tool=no BUILD_lib=no BUILD_DONE=yes release
${TOOLDIR}/bin/nbmake-${TARGET_MACHINE} STRIPFLAG="'-sS -g'" UNPRIVED=yes UPDATE=yes DESTDIR=${DESTDIR}-no-g RELEASEDIR=${RELEASEDIR}-no-g BUILD_tool=no BUILD_lib=no BUILD_DONE=yes src-sets

Caveat:  I'm working with the netbsd-1-6 branch.


This of course requires quite a lot of space for $OBJDIR (-M),
especially when statically linking everything with "-g" symbols (just
over 6GB on alpha with an extra kernel or two and the final ISO), but I
think the result is well worthwhile.


> I have had to rebuild programs because they get stripped during build.
> That is bad news.  Also removing local symbols can give apparrantly
> incorrect stack back-traces, so isn't particularly useful.

yes, that happens quite often to me as well.

 
> It it also possible to do a reasonable amount of debugging with just
> the standard symbol table - after all the most usable feature of gdb is
> the 'bt' command on a core dump.

Indeed.   I consider the standard symbol table to be mandatory, and the
'-g' table is only a desirable bonus, but certainly not necessary.

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