Subject: Re: xmms patch for raw cds
To: Luke Mewburn <lukem@netbsd.org>
From: Sean Davis <dive@endersgame.net>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 02/11/2003 02:09:27
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:28:47PM +1100, Luke Mewburn wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:24:22AM -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>   | 
>   | "James K. Lowden" <jklowden@schemamania.org> writes:
>   | > > > Yeah. For that reason, I think it would better to use /dev/cdrom on
>   | > > > all platforms, and on NetBSD, to let the user make /dev/cdrom a
>   | > > > symlink to the desired device.
>   | > > 
>   | > > I think we should make things work well by default. As it stands right
>   | > > now, most users will be happy with cd0 being used to play things, and
>   | > > I think in general we should do what Simon proposes. Rule of least
>   | > > surprise. The user is NOT expecting to need to create a /dev/cdrom and
>   | > > /dev/cdrom goes very much against the NetBSD grain I think.
>   | > 
>   | > The problem as I see it is, there's no way to offer any hint to pkgsrc (or
>   | > applications generally) about what device to use.  There should be some
>   | > notion of a default cdrom, default printer, default floppy, default modem.
>   | 
>   | There is one. /dev/cd0X is almost ALWAYS the only CD device on the
>   | machine. Similarly, there is almost ALWAYS just /dev/fd0X, etc.
>   | 
>   | If the user does something else, they can configure it. Give them a
>   | MESSAGE to that effect -- that's what MESSAGE is for.
> 
> Yup it does, and that's what the MESSAGE will still (probably) contain
> after Simon's patch.  Simon's patch makes things "better" by default
> for the majority of NetBSD installations of xmms...

So since the 'majority' will be using cd0, the minority gets ignored and has to
go out of their way to fix it? why can't there be an mk.conf define for default
cdrom device, and if it's not defined, *THEN* default to cd0?

Sure, cd0X is almost ALWAYS the only CD device on the system, but since Windows
is almost ALWAYS the first OS a PC comes with, should we all stop running
NetBSD?

-Sean

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