Subject: RE: benchmark
To: None <hubert@feyrer.de>
From: Igor Shmukler <shmukler@mail.ru>
List: tech-perform
Date: 01/24/2005 21:25:39
Hubert,&#10;&#10;In general I would not bother to reply to a message to that died without respose a while ago.&#10;However, I am tired of you plain lying and trying to seed conflicts between BSD projects.&#10;Everything you say is pretty much BS.&#10;&#10;1. nobody called benchmarksuseless. I and other simply pointed out that a microbenchmarks do not show performance. That's why they are called microbenchmarks. They do however show that NetBSD seriously looked at number of low level allocators and scalability is now excellent.&#10;2.FreeBSD people do respect NetBSD team and other software developers do project do borrow from one another be it commercial or open source. &#10;3. If I would be a mail admin for either BSD I would have banned you a while ago.&#10;&#10;What you are doing is very wrong. You are not helping either project.&#10;&#10;It's sad what kind of person you are. BSDs are already very segmented. For number of reasons we now have four project FreeBSD, NetBSD, Op
 enBSD and Dragonfly. There is already a serious lack of resources and a significant amount of time is being spent on tracking progress of other projects so that things that do improve performance or other aspects find it's way in every OS.&#10;&#10;What is your contribution to BSD cause? What are you trying to do? Do you want to hurt BSD effort? If you are not doing this on purpose, I think you are just too dumb to be helpful. &#10;&#10;IS.&#10;&#10;-----&#10;When I posted Gregory McGarry's benchmark recently, a lot of (FreeBSD :)&#10;people cried that microbenchmarks are useless, and "real life" benchmarks &#10;should be used. Well, as sort of an answer, I've collected a few data &#10;points on this whole issue:&#10;&#10;  * "Micro"benchmark between NetBSD 2.0 and FreeBSD 5.3:&#10;    http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/gmcgarry/&#10;  * Memory/File performance comparison between NetBSD 2.0, OpenBSD 3.6&#10;    and Fedora Core 3:&#10;    http://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1352
 40&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&tid=190&tid=7&mode=thread&pid=11309939#11319773&#10;  * Internet2 speed records:&#10;    http://proj.sunet.se/LSR2/&#10;    http://proj.sunet.se/LSR3-s/&#10;    http://proj.sunet.se/LSR3-m/&#10;  * Fefe's Benchmark of Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD:&#10;    http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/&#10;&#10;&#10;  - Hubert