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Re: status of bpf_mtap()/bpf_mtap_softint() ?

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:51:39AM +0900, Ryota Ozaki wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Manuel Bouyer <> wrote:
> > Hello
> > looking more closely at bpf for CAN, there is something I don't understand.
> > It looks like bpf_mtap() can't be called from interrupt context any more,
> > as shown by the KASSERT() in bpf_deliver().
> > bpf_mtap_softint() was was introduced for this.
> bpf_mtap needs different treatments for Rx and Tx.
> For Rx, network device drivers should (1) implement the Rx interrupt handler
> as sofint or (2) use if_percpuq facility to ensure the interface input
> routine (traditionally it's ifp->if_input) and bpf_mtap (and upper layers)
> run in softint. Most drivers need to just use if_percpuq_enqueue instead of
> ifp->if_input.
> bpf_mtap_softint was introduced for bpf_mtap that were difficult to run
> it in softint (e.g., to do so, fundamental changes are needed). Basically
> we shouldn't use bpf_mtap_softint and should adopt either of the above two
> approaches.
> For Tx, bpf_mtap is called in XXX_start that is normally executed in
> a normal packet transmission path (LWP or softint). However, some drivers
> try to call XXX_start in the Tx interrupt handler. To avoid such calls,
> the deferred if_start mechanism was introduced. What we need is just to
> replace XXX_start called in an interrupt handler with
> if_schedule_deffered_start.

For CAN this is quite a bit of overhead. CAN controllers usually don't do
DMA and can handle only one packet at a time. This means one extra softint
per received packet, and eventually one extra softint per transmitted packet.

bpf_mtap_softint() is probably cheaper because it will schedule an
extra softint only if there is a bpf listener.
Can we remove the KASSERT(cpu_intr_p()) in bpf_mtap_softint() ?
I can't see why it couldn't be called from thread context. Using
bpf_mtap() or bpf_mtap_softint() depending on context can lead to
out of order packet delivery at the bpf level.

Manuel Bouyer <>
     NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference

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