I am doing some work on sip & gsip, but I only have a sip, and I do not want to break gsip with my changes. I guess that all of the devices in the manual page have stopped using the NatSemi chip. Not so? If so, do you have a used gsip to spare? Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyoung@ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933