On Apr 25, 2005, at 1:37 PM, der Mouse wrote:

>> [...] the strong-ES-hybrid that Thor, and I, and others rely on,  
>> [...]
>>
>
> What is this hybrid model?  I don't recall seeing it clearly laid out
> upthread - if it was, I missed it amid the sound and fury - and if
> people are relying on it, I think it would help if we all knew exactly
> what is being relied on, or we're liable to end up talking past one
> another.

Indeed -- Jonathan -- can you please describe the semantics that you  
have confirmed that we have?

-- thorpej