On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 06:49:06AM -0500, der Mouse wrote:
 
> In the few cases where I've been able to get some idea where the
> problem is, it's always been close to the problematic endpoint, the
> host that tries to send bulk data and fail because of the PMTU-D black
> hole.

In the T-Online case - as far as I've heard - the problem is that T-Online 
designed their A-DSL network (and private user tariff) for single PCs, and
simply don't care what happens if you connect a "router" (really, NAT box).

Regards,
	-is