Thomas E. Spanjaard said: >Because some people prefer ipf over pf. I prefer ipfilter. A simple answer from my main mailserver: rmkhome# wc -l /etc/ipf.conf 10413 /etc/ipf.conf I would sure hate to convert that to pf. :-) -- Rick Kelly rmk@rmkhome.com <http://www.rmkhome.com/> <http://rkba.rmkhome.com/>